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OT: Who's On first?

admin — Fri, 29 Sep 2006 00:00:00 +0000

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Here’s an snipped from one of GWB’s recent speeches: "Some have selectively quoted from this document to make the case that by fighting the terrorists, by fighting them in Iraq, we are making our people less secure here at home," Bush continued. The president said that that "argument buys into the enemy’s propaganda that the terrorists attack us because we’re provoking them." "I want to remind the American citizens that we were not in Iraq on September 11th, 2001," said Bush. Before I rant, let me say I love my country. But, I am terrified for it’s future…. GWB’s statements above *clearly* indicate that GWB, his administration (and many Americans, for that matter) have NO IDEA why the terrorists *are* attacking us!! Even Sept. 11th. Clueless, clueless, clueless!!! Folks, terrorists don’t blow themselves up because they love fireworks….and they don’t do it because they hate our "freedoms" and/or our lifestyle. GWB would love to have you all believe that, because that’s easy for Joe Six Pack to understand….and *fear.* As yourself a few *easy* questions— What would it take to make *you* do something drastic like that? Think about it…. Consider, if you will—a foreign army in your country? OK, that’s an easy one…how about– A foriegn gov. sending covert missions into your country for a variety of reasons, including taking over your government? Using any means available, forcing you and your country to do things you dont’ want to do, against your traditions/values? Forcing you to sell them your valuable resources (oil) and if you refuse, you threaten WAR? The second part is only a snapshot of what the US has been doing to countries all over the world, for decades. But, in the last couple of decades, it’s gotten far worse. Hey! Since when are WE king of the world?!?!?! Bringing OIL into the picture certainly complicates things….because the USA wants it, and will stop at nothing to get it….including WAR to gain a foothold in the region, securing our access. Republican and Democratic administrations are both guilty of such things. That is probably a good part of *why* 9/11 happened. There there’s that whole Israel thing, that I don’t understand…(I admit) If there was a country pulling such crap against the USA, wouldn’t it piss you off?!?? Of course it would!!! (This is obviously a very complicated issue, far bigger than one can really discuss here….but Joe Six Pack might get a rough idea…) Am I defending the terrorists and their actions? Of course I’m not!! Killing is not the answer. But, given a few "loose cannons" on their side of the world, and it’s easy for them to do…and, get publicity. That’s what they want, so the world will see why they are pissed. But, I also don’t approve of many things my government has done—things that Joe Six Pack has never even imagined have been done, and are still being done….in *his* name, as an American. Folks, there’s a reason they hate us so much. They didn’t simply start hating us because we have bigger TV’s, etc. There is no Jihad because we’re non-muslim, either (though GWB would like you to think so—good fear factor stuff!). If we hadn’t gone messing in their countries, trying to force them to be more like us, take their resources *by force* and more, I’d be willing to bet there would be no terrorism—like what we have today. In other words Mr. Six Pack….if you go around poking someone in the ribs enough, eventually they are going to turn and smack you, eh? (Ya’ll remember how pissed bubba got when you kept’uh spittin’ on his boot, ’cause they had square toes….and that ain’t right?" It’s time we learn the truth regarding *why* there is terrorism, rather than worrying about killing everyone who we’ve pissed off….eh? That’s GWB’s method. ("what?" "You don’t want to sell us Amer’kins your oil?" "Well….come here then, I’m gonna smack you, you dirty…!") So….what if the middle east won’t sell us their oil? Fine…let them keep it. If we’d have devoted the money spent on WAR to research into alternate energy sources, we very likely wouldn’t need oil any more, anyway. And now….GWB thinks that fighting the terrorists in Iraq is making us safer….does he? Not at all. The more we kill, the more will come to fight us. Why do you think that may be? Did it ever occur to you that we may not be on the "right" side of this one? Hmmmmm???? When we Americans wake up and realize what we’ve been doing to the people in some countries….the middle east, in particular…maybe….just maybe, we’ll see the *real* answer to putting an end to terrorism. Sound like it would be "giving in" to the terrorists? Not at all…..I told you to think about it. It’s been said that GWB has set the USA back 10 years, with regard to our image and world relationships. I suggest it’s *far worse* than that. I suggest his administration’s wreckless policies have damaged the USA to a point we may not recover from, for a very, very long time. Before 9/11, we had created "hot spots" of anger against the USA. But now, it’s more like a nuclear chain reaction. (Oh, sorry….I meant to say "nu-ku-ler") If we don’t find a way to stop it, it’s going to spread–big time. Time for Joe Six Pack to sober up… My 2 cents (plus interest, I suppose), Mike

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http://politicalaffairs.net/article/view/1222/1/99 Using a false passport, Posada apparently snuck into the United States in late March and remains in hiding. His lawyer announced that Posada is asking the Bush administration for asylum because of the work he had done for the Central Intelligence Agency in the 1960s. The documents posted today include CIA records confirming that Posada was an agent in the 1960s and early 1970s, and remained an informant in regular contact with CIA officials at least until June 1976. In 1985, Posada escaped from prison in Venezuela where he had been incarcerated after the plane bombing and remains a fugitive from justice. He went directly to El Salvador, where he worked, using the alias "Ramon Medina," on the illegal contra resupply program being run by Lt. Col. Oliver North in the Reagan National Security Council. In 1998 he was interviewed by Ann Louise Bardach for the New York Times at a secret location in Aruba, and claimed responsibility for a string of hotel bombings in Havana during which eleven people were injured and one Italian businessman was killed. Most recently he was imprisoned in Panama for trying to assassinate Fidel Castro in December 2000 with 33 pounds of C-4 explosives. In September 2004, he and three co-conspirators were suddenly pardoned, and Posada went to Honduras. Venezuela is now preparing to submit an official extradition request to the United States for his return. According to Peter Kornbluh, who directs the Archive’s Cuba Documentation Project, Posada’s presence in the United States "poses a direct challenge to the Bush administration’s terrorism policy. The declassified record," he said, "leaves no doubt that Posada has been one of the world’s most unremitting purveyors of terrorist violence." President Bush has repeatedly stated that no nation should harbor terrorists, and all nations should work to bring individuals who advocate and employ the use of terror tactics to justice. During the Presidential campaign last year Bush stated that "I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world." Although Posada has reportedly been in the Miami area for more than six weeks, the FBI has indicated it is not actively searching for him. Too often we speak about terrorism in general terms, as if it is something that involves issues-rather than people. And I suppose that this makes it easier to swallow the U.S. government’s double standard in its so-called war on terrorism. But we should never forget that terrorism is principally about the victims and that the memory of lives cut short by bombs or bullets ought never be forgotten. The most notorious terrorist of the western hemisphere, Luis Posada Carriles, stands on the verge of being released from immigration custody by the Bush administration. This terrorist is wanted in Venezuela for 73 counts of first degree murder in relation to the downing of a Cubana de Aviaci

OT: IRS

admin — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:00:00 +0000

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Welcome to AmeriKa. The clock is ticking…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > If this isn’t class warfare in action I don’t know what is: > Feds Eliminate 157 Auditors of Rich Taxpayers > By David Cay Johnston > The New York Times > Sunday 23 July 2006 > Move cuts ranks of IRS lawyers who inspect returns that include estate > and gift taxes. > The federal government is moving to eliminate the jobs of nearly half > of the lawyers at the Internal Revenue Service who audit tax returns of > some of the wealthiest Americans, specifically those who are subject to > gift and estate taxes when they transfer parts of their fortunes to their > children and others. > The administration plans to cut the jobs of 157 of the agency’s 345 > estate tax lawyers, plus 17 support personnel, in less than 70 days. Kevin > Brown, an IRS deputy commissioner, confirmed the cuts after the New York > Times was given internal documents by people inside the IRS who oppose > them. > The Bush administration has successfully lobbied Congress to enact > measures that reduce the number of Americans who are subject to the estate > tax – which opponents refer to as the "death tax" – but has failed in its > efforts to eliminate the tax entirely. > Brown said in a telephone interview Friday that he had ordered the > staff cuts because far fewer people were obliged to pay estate taxes under > Bush’s legislation. > But six IRS estate tax lawyers whose jobs are likely to be eliminated > said in interviews that the cuts were just the latest moves behind the > scenes at the IRS to shield people with political connections and complex > tax-avoidance devices from thorough audits. > Sharyn Phillips, a veteran IRS estate tax lawyer in Manhattan, called > the cuts a "back-door way for the Bush administration to achieve what it > cannot get from Congress, which is repeal of the estate tax." > Brown dismissed as preposterous any suggestion that the IRS was soft > on rich tax cheats. He said the money saved by eliminating the estate tax > lawyers would be used to hire revenue agents to audit income tax returns, > especially those from people making more than $1 million. > Brown said civil service rules barred the estate tax lawyers from > moving over to audit income taxes. An IRS spokesman said the agency had > asked for permission to allow such transfers twice but the Office of > Personnel Management had not responded. > Estate tax lawyers are the most productive tax law enforcement > personnel at the IRS, according to Brown. For each hour they work, they > find an average of $2,200 of taxes owed to the government. > Brown said analysis showed that the IRS was auditing enough returns to > catch cheats and that 10 percent of the estate audits brought in 80 percent > of the additional taxes. He said auditing a greater percentage of gift and > estate tax returns would not be worthwhile because "the next case is not a > lucrative case" and likely to be of relatively little value. > That is a change from six years ago, when the IRS said 85 percent of > large taxable gifts it audited shortchanged the government. The IRS said > then that it would hire three more lawyers just to audit taxable gifts of > $1 million or more. > Over the past five years, officials at both the IRS and the Treasury > have told Congress that cheating among the highest-income Americans is a > major and growing problem. > The six IRS tax lawyers, some of whom were willing to be named, all > said that clear evidence of fraud was pursued vigorously by the agency, but > that when audits showed the use of complicated schemes to understate the > value of assets, the IRS had become increasingly reluctant to pursue cases. > The lawyers said the risk analysis system the IRS used to evaluate > whether to pursue such cases gave higher-level officials cover to not > pursue tax cheats and, in the process, emboldened the most aggressive tax > advisers to prepare gift and estate tax returns that shortchanged the > government. > "This is not a game the poor will win, but the rich will," said John > Hruska, another IRS estate tax lawyer in New York who, like Phillips, is > active in the National Treasury Employees Union, which represents IRS > workers. > Colleen Kelley, the national union president, said: "If these lawyers > are not there to audit the gift and estate tax returns, then a lot of taxes > that should be paid will go uncollected, and that impacts every taxpayer > who is paying their fair share."

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tick….tick….tick…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> More class war…. > I notice the company Choice Point is mentioned. This could be a partial > payback for all the work they did for Kathleen Harris in 2000 in FL. They > were the company that purged the voter role database of thousands of > legitmate voters that were wrongly labled as "felons". > "Protection" Act Would Strip Consumers of Credit Safeguards > By Jessica Azulay > The NewStandard > Monday 24 July 2006 > The US House of Representatives is poised to consider a bill that would > make it more difficult for consumers to protect their credit from identity > thieves. > Backed by the lucrative financial-services industry, the Financial Data > Protection Act of 2005 would narrow the circumstances in which consumers > could restrict their credit activity to prevent fraudulent borrowing, and > it would undermine stronger state-based reporting rules for companies that > hold and sell consumer data. > "It’s shocking that at a time when data breaches are in the headlines > daily and consumers are at greater risk than ever [of] identity theft, > Congress would choose to vote on a bill that would strip consumers of their > existing identity-theft protections," Susanna Montezemolo, policy analyst > with Consumers Union, said in a press statement. Consumers Union publishes > Consumer Reports magazine. > Companies that stand to gain from the legislation have spent a small > fortune on campaign contributions and lobbying. > In the last two election cycles, finance and credit companies have > donated more than $12.5 million to political campaigns, and in 2005 alone, > the industry spent almost $30 million on lobbying, according to the Center > for Responsive Politics, which tracks money’s influence on government. > Two of the Act’s four co-sponsors are on the industry’s top-ten > recipient list for the House: Michael Castle (R-Delaware) took in a total > of $116,616, and Dennis Moore (D-Kansas) got $67,729. Another co-sponsor, > Deborah Pryce (R-Ohio), received $22,500 from the industry. > One of the most controversial provisions of the bill would make it much > more difficult for consumers to "freeze" their credit, a process that > enables consumers to make it nearly impossible for anyone – including the > consumer him or herself – to open new credit cards without first going > through extra security precautions. > Currently, a handful of states allow consumers to freeze their credit > at will in order to protect themselves against fraud. But the bill would > change the rules so that consumers in all states would have to supply > evidence that identity theft has occurred before obtaining a freeze. > Since their business models rely on consumers having easy access to > credit and creditors having easy access to individuals’ financial > information, finance and credit companies stand to gain from this > provision. But opponents of the bill say those seeking to protect their > credit have a lot to lose. > "It’s like telling someone you can’t put a deadbolt on your front door > until after you’ve been burglarized," Washington state Attorney General Rob > McKenna told the Washington Post. > Another provision that has consumer advocates protesting would set > federal rules for when companies that hold and sell personal financial data > must investigate and report security breaches. > The most notorious of such companies is ChoicePoint, which came to the > national spotlight in early 2005 when it announced that potential identity > thieves had posed as fake businesses and gained access to the files of tens > of thousands of consumers. > Opponents of the Financial Data Protection Act suggest that the > ChoicePoint debacle may never have come to light if not for California’s > relatively strong consumer-protection law that required the firm to notify > consumers in that state whose data may have been breached. > The Financial Data Protection Act would pre-empt California’s law as > well as those in dozens of states that have stronger protection regulations > than the ones being proposed at the national level. > The Act under consideration by the House would leave it up to companies > to investigate security breaches and determine whether there is a > "likelihood that such information has been, or will be, misused in a manner > that may cause harm or inconvenience to the related consumer" before having > to tell government agencies or notify consumers that their information may > have been compromised. > To Montezemolo of Consumers Union, Congress is putting the decision in > the wrong hands. "Consumers are the greatest protectors of their own > personal information," she said, "yet the bill moving forward would let > companies decide whether they would notify consumers about security > breaches." > ——- > If this isn’t class warfare in action I don’t know what is: > Feds Eliminate 157 Auditors of Rich Taxpayers > By David Cay Johnston > The New York Times > Sunday 23 July 2006 > Move cuts ranks of IRS lawyers who inspect returns that include estate > and gift taxes. > The federal government is moving to eliminate the jobs of nearly half > of the lawyers at the Internal Revenue Service who audit tax returns of > some of the wealthiest Americans, specifically those who are subject to > gift and estate taxes when they transfer parts of their fortunes to their > children and others. > The administration plans to cut the jobs of 157 of the agency’s 345 > estate tax lawyers, plus 17 support personnel, in less than 70 days. Kevin > Brown, an IRS deputy commissioner, confirmed the cuts after the New York > Times was given internal documents by people inside the IRS who oppose > them. > The Bush administration has successfully lobbied Congress to enact > measures that reduce the number of Americans who are subject to the estate > tax – which opponents refer to as the "death tax" – but has failed in its > efforts to eliminate the tax entirely. > Brown said in a telephone interview Friday that he had ordered the > staff cuts because far fewer people were obliged to pay estate taxes under > Bush’s legislation. > But six IRS estate tax lawyers whose jobs are likely to be eliminated > said in interviews that the cuts were just the latest moves behind the > scenes at the IRS to shield people with political connections and complex > tax-avoidance devices from thorough audits. > Sharyn Phillips, a veteran IRS estate tax lawyer in Manhattan, called > the cuts a "back-door way for the Bush administration to achieve what it > cannot get from Congress, which is repeal of the estate tax." > Brown dismissed as preposterous any suggestion that the IRS was soft > on rich tax cheats. He said the money saved by eliminating the estate tax > lawyers would be used to hire revenue agents to audit income tax returns, > especially those from people making more than $1 million. > Brown said civil service rules barred the estate tax lawyers from > moving over to audit income taxes. An IRS spokesman said the agency had > asked for permission to allow such transfers twice but the Office of > Personnel Management had not responded. > Estate tax lawyers are the most productive tax law enforcement > personnel at the IRS, according to Brown. For each hour they work, they > find an average of $2,200 of taxes owed to the government. > Brown said analysis showed that the IRS was auditing enough returns to > catch cheats and that 10 percent of the estate audits brought in 80 percent > of the additional taxes. He said auditing a greater percentage of gift and > estate tax returns would not be worthwhile because "the next case is not a > lucrative case" and likely to be of relatively little value. > That is a change from six years ago, when the IRS said 85 percent of > large taxable gifts it audited shortchanged the government. The IRS said > then that it would hire three more lawyers just to audit taxable gifts of > $1 million or more. > Over the past five years, officials at both the IRS and the Treasury > have told Congress that cheating among the highest-income Americans is a > major and growing problem. > The six IRS tax lawyers, some of whom were willing to be named, all > said that clear evidence of fraud was pursued vigorously by the agency, but > that when audits showed the use of complicated schemes to understate the > value of assets, the IRS had become increasingly reluctant to pursue cases. > The lawyers said the risk analysis system the IRS used to evaluate > whether to pursue such cases gave higher-level officials cover to not > pursue tax cheats and, in the process, emboldened the most aggressive tax > advisers to prepare gift and estate tax returns that shortchanged the > government. > "This is not a game the poor will win, but the rich will," said John > Hruska, another IRS estate tax lawyer in New York who, like Phillips, is > active in the National Treasury Employees Union, which represents IRS > workers. > Colleen Kelley, the national union president, said: "If these lawyers > are not there to audit the gift and estate tax returns, then a lot of taxes > that should be paid will go uncollected, and that impacts every taxpayer > who is paying their fair share."

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Historical Education Opportunity

admin — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 00:00:00 +0000

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The First Casualty by Marc V. Mulay /"

Mulay – violent nutcase

admin — Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:00:00 +0000

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LV described Mulay best, back in late-2004: Well, let’s see – you accuse me of being a Nazi, and I say no I’m not. Next, you can accuse me of belonging to NAMBLA, and I get to deny *that*. And so it goes. Who gives a shit? I’m not here to deny every accusation a fucking mental patient like *you* makes. That zootwoman e-mail CCed to this NG by Doug tells the tale – you’re a violent nutcase, on medication for your condition. Now, *you* can deny *that*, son, but from where I’m standing it appears that corroborating evidence has been tendered. Choke on it, asshole. Lord Valve "Nazi" And recently, I’m amazed when I see people here who’re actually corresponding with this lunatic (Mulay), especially if they’re familiar with his history in this NG… you all must realize how ill he is and have much more compassion than I do – OR – you just don’t know what a WHACKO you’re dealing with… Personally, I have zero tolerance for a fucking whacko who threatens people in a NG, by saying he’d like to duct tape / tie them up, kill them, rape them, and cut them up with a bone saw. No firearms necessary over in this neck of the woods…he’d find himself on the wrong end of a Marine Combat Knife if he were ever stupid enough to try and "make good on his threat". User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (Windows/20040803) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.guitar.amps Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.5.73.121 EDT) Organization: Cox Communications Xref: wnmaster12 alt.guitar.amps:633374 (bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net) Parvat fugla, Loop ‘n fareep dun upped ma tharst fer kute main luv. Ahm gon kum gitcha fer sum moonlat hont luv. 1.) winderless van 2.) ether own a rag 3.) duk taype 4.) lawtsa rope 5.) bone saw 6.) plastik baggs 7.) roll up karpet ah weel luv U till yor las gag then poot a fuk in ya ded jes fer funn. ah will brang wd40 n budder fer luvin. xoxoxox GITTERDUN!!! PS – Buzz off, baldy – LOL!

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Earlier today we found out that the EFF had sued AT&T over their secret work with the NSA on surveillance of millions of US citizens without wiretaps. We learned that paragraph 65 of this complaint shows EFF is trying to turn it into a nationwide Class Action suit covering all current and former customers (any after 9/2001) of AT&T. And we learned that a retired AT&T technician had stepped forward and disclosed the installation of secret NSA spy equipment in the San Francisco trunk facility. As well as the belief that similar equipment is in place in Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego. Specifically, this equipment was the Narus ST-6400, a machine that was capable of monitoring over 622 Mbits/second in real time in May, 2000, and capturing anything that hits its’ semantice (i.e. the meaning of the content) triggers. The latest generation is called NarusInsight, capable of monitoring 10 billion bits of data per second. Follow me over the jump and let’s learn some more about the private company Narus, it’s founder Ovi Cohen, and board member Bill Crowell. Shall we? bewert’s diary :: :: Narus is a private company founded in 1997 by Ori Cohen, who had been in charge of technology development for VDONet, an early media streaming pioneer. It has venture funding from an all-star team of investors including JP Morgan Partners, Mayfield, NeoCarta, Presidio Venture Partners, Walden International, Intel, NTT Software and Sumisho Electronics. Of note is that while Hoover’s company factsheet on Narus continues to list Mr. Cohen as Chairman, while Narus’s own website listing of the Board of Directors no longer mentions Mr. Cohen. Prior to 9/11 Narus worked on building carrier-grade tools to analyze IP network traffic for billing purposes, to prevent what they term "revenue leakage". Post-9/11 they have continued down that path while adding more semantic monitoring abilities for surveillance purposes. They even brought in former Deputy Director of the NSA William P. Crowell as an addition to their Board of Directors. From the Press Release announcing this: Crowell is an independent security consultant and holds several board positions with a variety of technology and technology-based security companies. Since 9/11, Crowell has served on the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) Task Force on Terrorism and Deterrence, the National Research Council Committee on Science and Technology for Countering Terrorism and the Markle Foundation Task Force on National Security in the Information Age. His past positions have included president and chief executive officer of Cylink, a leading provider of e-business security solutions, as well as a series of senior positions at the National Security Agency, including deputy director of operations and deputy director of the Agency. Crowell has served as chairman of the President’s Export Council (PEC) Subcommittee on Encryption, which worked with the Administration, Congress and private industry to substantially loosen restrictions on the export of encryption products and technology. "Narus has an impressive track record of working with tier-one carriers to keep their networks running safely, continuously and profitably," said William Crowell. "I look forward to helping Narus as they forge new strategic partnerships and continue to break new ground in the telecommunications industry." So these guys (1) build hugely cool network monitoring devices and (2) are tied into US (at least) national security organizations at the highest levels. What are these hugely cool machines capable of? >From the Key Features list of NarusInsight

-Universal data collection from links, routers, soft switches, IDS/IPS, databases, etc. provides total network view across the world’s largest IP networks. -Normalization, Correlation, Aggregation and Analysis provide a comprehensive and detailed model of user, element, protocol, application and network behaviors, in real time. -Seven 9s reliability from data collection to data processing and analysis. -Industry-leading packet processing performance that supports network speeds of up to OC-192 at layer 4 and OC-48 at layer 7, enabling carriers to monitor traffic at either the edge of the network or at the core. -Unsurpassed and limitless scalability to support the world’s largest, most complex IP networks. -Unparalleled flexibility — NarusInsight’s functionality can easily be configured to meet any specific customer requirement (Narus Software Developer Kit -SDK). -Unparalleled extensibility — NarusInsight’s functionality can easily be configured to feed a particular activity or IP service such as security, lawful intercept or even Skype detection and blocking. How powerful is this? OC-192 carries about 10 gigabits of data per second. Ten billion bits per second, monitored in real-time. That is stunning. This is one damned powerful machine, one of the most powerful I’ve ever heard of in 25 years in IT. And what does it monitor while looking at this 10 billion bits of IP data per second? First lets take a look at what the network model is, the OSI model of seven layers. NarusInsight focuses on two layers: number four, the transport layer, built on standards like TCP and UDP, the physical building blocks of internet data traffic, and number seven, the application layer, built on standards like HTTP and FTP, which are dependent on the application using them, i.e. Internet Explorer, Kazaa, Skype, etc. It monitors 10 billion bits per second at level four and 2500 million bits per second at level seven. For reference, the 256K DSL line I am using equals .24 million bits per second. So one NarusInsight machine can look at 10,000 million DSL lines at once in great detail. That is a pretty damn big number. This is some really serious hardware with equally serious software. Which is our next subject. So what exactly is done to and with this data? That’s kind of a grey area, so let’s try to find what we can. The starting point is called the Internet Protocol Detail Record, which Narus helped found. From that FAQ I just linked to, we learn that IPDR stands for the Internet Protocol Detail Record, the name comes from the traditional telecom term CDR (Call Detail Record), used to record information about usage activity within the telecom infrastructure (such as a call completion). NDM-U stands for Network Data Management – Usage. It refers to a functional operation within the Telecom Management Forum’s Telecom Operations Map. The NDM function collects data from devices and services in a service providers network. Usage refers to the type of data which is the focus of this document. IPDR.org is the non-profit organization that promotes use of the IPDR NDM-U and other related standards. The principle deliverable for IPDR.org is the NDM-U specification and related development tools. And is it actually being used? IPDR.org has been in existence since 1999 and more than a dozen vendors have actual IPDR implementations "etched in code". Their systems are actually able to talk to each other and interoperate. Version 2.5 and up of the NDM-U represents a stable basis for development. IPDR.org’s Interoperability Pavilion is a working demonstration of multiple companies exchanging service usage data in that format. Service usage data. That would be data on the actual usage of the Internet. And what kind of data would this be? Way back in 1999, this article stated In an effort to provide more complex network traffic analysis, Narus is introducing its semantic network traffic service. The company cites research which predicts the fast-growing ISP sector will become stagnant without the ability to offer differentiated services. In order to gain significant revenues from these services, a technology was necessary to allow usage based pricing. "We realized that, at the heart of the data that is needed to accurately measure usage and enable ‘pay-as-you-go’ business models for Internet service providers, is what we call the ’semantics’ of network traffic," said Ori Cohen, Narus’ founder and chief executive officer. "In short, by seeing the ’semantics’ of network traffic, service providers can see ‘inside’ the data, providing much more detailed insight about the use of the Internet and the perceived value of specific applications than existing technologies allow." Semantic Traffic Analysis uses network technology to consistently capture and analyze all IP data streams on heavily trafficked networks remotely and non-invasively. In addition, the semantics of the data stream are determined also, as well as the protocol used and the application taking place. A variety of other data is available as well. Remember that semantics is not just the data, but rather the meaning of the data. It looks at the the data in a more comprehensive way than looking for keywords. Each NarusInsight machine does this at 2500 million bits per second, in real-time. You really wonder why BushCo doesn’t want to talk about this stuff? It’s the biggest invasion of privacy in history by several orders of magnitude. How can we know? From Narus’ Lawful Intercept and Regulatory Compliance page: Explosive Internet growth in recent years has transformed worldwide communications, yielding tremendous efficiencies and benefits, as well as many risks. For example, terrorist attacks around the globe have been carefully orchestrated through Internet-based forms of communications such as e-mail, messaging, hidden Web pages and now VoIP, forcing governmental organizations and law enforcement agencies to re-evaluate how they are providing public security as it becomes so much easier and faster to communicate electronically. Recent mandates and the resulting standards referenced under CALEA in the United States and ETSI in Western Europe aim to preserve the right of law enforcement agencies to conduct authorized electronic surveillance in an effort to protect the public and its right to … read more »

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OT: And while we argue about Kerry this is happening

admin — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:00:00 +0000

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Red China Attains Global Control of Ports > Charles R. Smith > Monday, March 27, 2006 > Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports deal is a > much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain control of > global ports that are strategically positioned to support military or > economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone > virtually unnoticed. > The powerful Chinese-owned Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. is now the world’s > biggest cargo terminal operator, according to London-based Drewry Shipping > Consultants. It also is the world’s largest port owner. > Hutchison Port Holdings has assumed control of scores of potential > economic choke points, including 169 berths at 41 ports worldwide. These > facilities control about 15 percent of global maritime container traffic. > Some of Hutchison’s ports lie near key sea lines of communication, such as > the Panama Canal, the Suez Canal and the eastern coast of the United > States. Of the eight international regions with choke points labeled by > the Department of Defense as "U.S. lifelines and transit regions," > Hutchison has ports in six. > "Amidst the furor over a U.A.E. corporate takeover of major U.S. and > Canadian seaports, scant notice has been given to the longstanding and > continuing threat from the PRC/Triad [People's Republic of China and > Chinese mobsters] ‘business’ presence at seaports around the world, > including the U.S. and Canada," stated a top-level Canadian port security > analyst. > "COSCO [China Ocean Shipping Co.] moved into Vancouver weeks after the > liberal, Sino suck-up government of Canada inexplicably got rid of the > ports police, which of course had nothing to do with the extensive > personal business interests held by the then and future prime ministers. > Now they’re in Halifax and the pattern is identical; they exclude everyone > from their operation, and commercial port operators with dollar signs in > their eyes and God knows what in their pockets blithely proclaim, ‘It’s > good for business.’ No doubt, but whose business — and what is the > business?" stated the analyst. > "Even Hillary Clinton is now decrying the installation of (billionaire) Li > Ka-Shing and his Hutchison Whampoa at both ends of the Panama Canal. Too > bad ethics didn’t trump self-interest when the Clintons approved the deal. > Maybe Hillary is just trolling for a renewal fee from her PRC benefactors. > After all, there’s another campaign on the horizon," noted the analyst. > Asia’s richest man, Li owns Hutchison Whampoa. He is well known outside of > financial circles, having attracted the attention of the U.S. military in > a top-secret document drawn up in 1999 during his successful bid to buy > the Panama Canal ports. > According to the October 1999 "intelligence assessment" prepared by the > U.S. military’s Southern Command, the Hong Kong billionaire is a "threat" > to U.S. national security. > "Hutchison Whampoa’s owner, Hong Kong tycoon Li Ka-Shing, has extensive > business ties in Beijing and has compelling financial reasons to maintain > a good relationship with China’s leadership," states the assessment. > "Hutchison’s containerized shipping facilities in the Panama Canal, as > well as the Bahamas, could provide a conduit for illegal shipments of > technology or prohibited items from the West to the PRC, or facilitate the > movement of arms and other prohibited items into the Americas," states the > 1999 report. > According to a 1999 investigative report by the American Foreign Policy > Council, "Hutchison Whampoa, through its Hutchison International Terminals > subsidiary or Panama Ports Co., has substantial links to the Chinese > communist government and the People’s Liberation Army." > The Hutchison Panama Ports Co. is 10 percent owned by China Resources > Enterprise (CRE), which is the commercial arm of China’s Ministry of Trade > and Economic Cooperation. > In its investigation into China’s attempts to influence the 1996 U.S. > presidential campaign, the U.S. Senate Government Affairs Committee > identified CRE as a conduit for "espionage – economic, political and > military – for China." > The committee’s then-chairman, Sen. Fred Thompson, said that CRE has > "geopolitical purposes. Kind of like a smiling tiger; it might look > friendly, but it’s very dangerous." > Republican Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi has described the Hong Kong firm > as "an arm of the People’s Liberation Army." > Li was a member of the board of the China International Trust and > Investment Corp. (CITIC), a business partner of COSCO. CITIC is the bank > of the Chinese army (People’s Liberation Army, or PLA), providing > financing for Chinese army weapons sales and Western technology purchases. > COSCO is known for its global commercial transport. COSCO also acts as the > merchant marine for the Chinese military. COSCO ships frequently > participate in Chinese naval exercises and are armed with missile > launchers. > COSCO ships have carried weapons to Iran, Pakistan, North Korea and Iraq. > COSCO ships also have carried nuclear weapon components to Pakistan. COSCO > ships have been used to ferry tanks to the Marxist regime in Burma, ship > North Korean rocket fuel to Pakistan and smuggle heroin into Canada. > The Chinese navy sometimes refers to COSCO ships as "zhanjian," or > warships, and boasts that COSCO workers are and will be "ready for battle > into the next century." > The Hong Kong Ming Pao newspaper reports the Chinese navy is stepping up > its refitting of COSCO merchant ships for use in war. COSCO container > ships can be used for both sea and ground operations, ferrying troops and > armored vehicles to launch attacks or land on beaches. > Chinese military officers told Ming Pao that some merchant ships also > could be fitted with large-caliber artillery and multibarrel rocket > launchers, medium- and small-caliber anti-aircraft guns and guided > missiles. The ships also can be used for laying anti-ship mines and for > anti-submarine warfare and to install electronic-deception devices. Li > also is well known for helping Chinese allies. He currently is developing > North Korea’s main harbor and is investing in the outlaw nation. > According to a 1994 dossier written by an "intelligence agency," Li has > "significant economic and political ties to China," including investments > in "a power station, a highway construction project and a large > contribution to Shantou University." > He also has had legal troubles and has a known criminal record. According > to Clinton White House documents, he was "found guilty of insider trading > after a widely publicized trial in 1984; he was not punished by the > courts." > Li has invested more than $1 billion in China and owns most of the dock > space in Hong Kong. In an exclusive deal with China’s communist > government, he has the right of first refusal over all PRC ports south of > the Yangtze River, which involves a close working relationship with the > Chinese military and businesses controlled by the PLA. > He has served as a middleman for PLA business dealings with the West. For > example, he financed several satellite deals between the U.S.-based Hughes > Corp. and China Hong Kong Satellite (CHINASAT), a company owned by the > PLA. > In 1997, U.S. taxpayers would have financed Li and the Chinese navy when > they nearly obtained four American-built huge roll-on/roll-off container > ships, which can be used for transporting military cargo. > U.S. Commerce Department documents also show that law enforcement agencies > were very concerned about Li’s connections to Triad criminal gangs. A 1995 > cable from the U.S. Embassy in Nassau noted that Li had signed an > agreement to build an $88 million container ship terminal in the Bahamas. > Curiously, for a harmless deal done by a Hong Kong tycoon, the copy list > for the cable included several law enforcement agencies, such as Customs > and the Drug Enforcement Agency. > "… U.S. agencies [have] security concerns about possible smuggling > attempts through the terminal," states the cable from the U.S. Embassy. > The late Adm. Thomas Moorer opposed Li and Hutchison Whampoa in his Panama > Canal takeover bid. Moorer, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, > also served as the commander of the Pacific and Atlantic Fleets. > "Of course, the Chinese military sees the benefit of having a base, a > future base, so close to the United States," Moorer said. > "What China is trying to do is get a kind of maritime position worldwide, > and they need a home base – so to speak – in every ocean. "Not only are > the Chinese in the Bahamas, they’re in Panama and the Spratly Islands > right off the Philippines. They tried to get Long Beach [Calif.]," Moorer > said. > "There’s no question about the fact in my mind that the Chinese military > forces are affiliated with Mr. Li, who in turn runs Hutchison Whampoa," > added Moorer. > SOFTWAR DOES NOT SEND UNSOLICITED EMAIL > OFFICIAL SOFTWAR COMMUNICATION > SOFTWAR EMAIL NEWSLETTER COPYRIGHT (C) 2006 SOFTWAR INC.

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Yes you have "your" priorities straight. You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the world? Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. You are one worthless fucking piece of shit.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports deal is a >> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain control >> of >> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military or >> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >> virtually unnoticed. > Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around 250,000 > personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret ops) > and > a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world COMBINED. And > enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. > Who has the empire, US or China?

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the good guy was tempted by the evil empire.

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China BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in addition to being involved in child slave trade. Mr Soul

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them. But we can’t attack iran without their strategic location. (;>(

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> China > BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very > involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in > addition to being involved in child slave trade. > Mr Soul

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Once again another stupid answer. UAE is on the other side of the Straits. It was a sarcastic joke.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And we need to attack Iran so that we can get their oil, and run a > pipeline > through there. >them. >But we can’t attack iran without their strategic location. (;>( >> China >> BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very >> involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in >> addition to being involved in child slave trade. >> Mr Soul

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And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you actually are.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Yes you have "your" priorities straight. > I do… I value things like education over militarism. I also believe in > diplomacy before violence. Get YOUR priorities straight, sparky. >You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. > If I didn’t care about my country I wouldn’t bother to criticize it. >You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the >world? > Face reality (I know it’s difficult) and try to get used to the fact that > the cold war is OVER. Bush and all these guys in the Pentagon are trying > to make the "war on terror" into the new cold war, but it’s bullshit. > The only empire in the word at present is the US… there is no other > threat that comes at all close to the USA in terms of military power. Not > a chance. The only reason we maintain all these bases at this point is to > assure that we can remain addicted to cheap fossil fuel. Just like many > addicts, we’re ready to kill anyone who gets between us and our supplier. >Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. > Read some history, pal. We won the second world war with a smaller > military than we have now, in terms of firepower. There was no > military/industrial complex until after WWII. > Who is going to start WW-III, besides the USA, with our constant meddling > and interferring with other sovereign nations? We’ve started more wars in > since the end of WW-II than in the previous 150 years before that. We are > pretty much the only aggressor with any real power now that the USSR is > history. >You are one worthless fucking piece of shit. > Jesus loves you… >>>> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports deal is >>>> a >>>> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain >>>> control >>>> of >>>> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military or >>>> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >>>> virtually unnoticed. >> Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around >> 250,000 >> personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret ops) >> and >> a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world COMBINED. >> And >> enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. >> Who has the empire, US or China?

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As I recall, correct if wrong, they have been running ports in Miami for years….

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The UAE is one big can of worms. We have been doing business with them for > some time… >China >BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very >involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in >addition to being involved in child slave trade. >Mr Soul

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Cubans? Ricans? WHICH spicks? -just playing- some of the nicest people I know are Latino. Besides, I like dark skinned pooty. Blondes are fun to masturbate into. Oink. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > As I recall, correct if wrong, they have been running ports in Miami for > years….

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I would get a better "debate" from a rock. You are too fucking stupid to know you are stupid, and you prove it constantly.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Once again, you prove you have the emotions and debating skills of a > 6-year > old. >And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you >actually are. >>>Yes you have "your" priorities straight. >> I do… I value things like education over militarism. I also believe >> in >> diplomacy before violence. Get YOUR priorities straight, sparky. >>>You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. >> If I didn’t care about my country I wouldn’t bother to criticize it. >>>You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the >>>world? >> Face reality (I know it’s difficult) and try to get used to the fact >> that >> the cold war is OVER. Bush and all these guys in the Pentagon are >> trying >> to make the "war on terror" into the new cold war, but it’s bullshit. >> The only empire in the word at present is the US… there is no other >> threat that comes at all close to the USA in terms of military power. >> Not >> a chance. The only reason we maintain all these bases at this point is >> to >> assure that we can remain addicted to cheap fossil fuel. Just like many >> addicts, we’re ready to kill anyone who gets between us and our >> supplier. >>>Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. >> Read some history, pal. We won the second world war with a smaller >> military than we have now, in terms of firepower. There was no >> military/industrial complex until after WWII. >> Who is going to start WW-III, besides the USA, with our constant >> meddling >> and interferring with other sovereign nations? We’ve started more wars >> in >> since the end of WW-II than in the previous 150 years before that. We >> are >> pretty much the only aggressor with any real power now that the USSR is >> history. >>>You are one worthless fucking piece of shit. >> Jesus loves you… >>>>>> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports deal >>>>>> is >>>>>> a >>>>>> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain >>>>>> control >>>>>> of >>>>>> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military >>>>>> or >>>>>> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >>>>>> virtually unnoticed. >>>> Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around >>>> 250,000 >>>> personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret >>>> ops) >>>> and >>>> a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world COMBINED. >>>> And >>>> enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. >>>> Who has the empire, US or China?

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What the fuck? You are one fucking stupid S.O.B.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Once again another stupid answer. >UAE is on the other side of the Straits. > Right, that’s why we have military air bases in the UAE I suppose? >It was a sarcastic joke. >> And we need to attack Iran so that we can get their oil, and run a >> pipeline >> through there. >>>them. >>>But we can’t attack iran without their strategic location. (;>( >>>> China >>>> BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very >>>> involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in >>>> addition to being involved in child slave trade. >>>> Mr Soul

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You don’t have a capacity for debate. You are just frustrating & a total waste of anyone’s time.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I would get a better "debate" from a rock. You are too fucking stupid to >know you are stupid, and you prove it constantly. > It’s not my fault you are incapable of civilized discussion. Name calling > is you last resort… >> Once again, you prove you have the emotions and debating skills of a >> 6-year >> old. >>>And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you >>>actually are. >>>>>Yes you have "your" priorities straight. >>>> I do… I value things like education over militarism. I also believe >>>> in >>>> diplomacy before violence. Get YOUR priorities straight, sparky. >>>>>You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. >>>> If I didn’t care about my country I wouldn’t bother to criticize it. >>>>>You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the >>>>>world? >>>> Face reality (I know it’s difficult) and try to get used to the fact >>>> that >>>> the cold war is OVER. Bush and all these guys in the Pentagon are >>>> trying >>>> to make the "war on terror" into the new cold war, but it’s bullshit. >>>> The only empire in the word at present is the US… there is no other >>>> threat that comes at all close to the USA in terms of military power. >>>> Not >>>> a chance. The only reason we maintain all these bases at this point >>>> is >>>> to >>>> assure that we can remain addicted to cheap fossil fuel. Just like >>>> many >>>> addicts, we’re ready to kill anyone who gets between us and our >>>> supplier. >>>>>Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. >>>> Read some history, pal. We won the second world war with a smaller >>>> military than we have now, in terms of firepower. There was no >>>> military/industrial complex until after WWII. >>>> Who is going to start WW-III, besides the USA, with our constant >>>> meddling >>>> and interferring with other sovereign nations? We’ve started more >>>> wars >>>> in >>>> since the end of WW-II than in the previous 150 years before that. We >>>> are >>>> pretty much the only aggressor with any real power now that the USSR >>>> is >>>> history. >>>>>You are one worthless fucking piece of shit. >>>> Jesus loves you… >>>>>>>> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports >>>>>>>> deal >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain >>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >>>>>>>> virtually unnoticed. >>>>>> Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around >>>>>> 250,000 >>>>>> personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret >>>>>> ops) >>>>>> and >>>>>> a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world >>>>>> COMBINED. >>>>>> And >>>>>> enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. >>>>>> Who has the empire, US or China?

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I only have so much to time to waste, on you. We still have bases around the planet, so we can at least try to stop shit like happened before. Has nothing to do with the cold war. Also, this morphed in to protecting the bankers & business interests. The other whining bullshit you posted has already been gone over repeatedly. We get it. Your opinion is the U.S. is all bad, the evil of the planet, all the other countries are great. Name the FREE COUNTRIES on this planet. That’s countries where you can have firearms, vote, bitch about your government without being shot, have basic protections from nearly everything. Not be censored<< though that is starting to creep in on us now. Come & go as you please. As much as you run down this country, you would be the first to whine & bitch, if your were inconvenienced in the least. Those sovereign nations we are having to watch, are mostly creations of lines drawn in the sand by 1 English guy & 1 french guy. If you really believe there are not countries that would love to take over & do as they please, you are a waste of time. Oh, I already knew that. America bad, all others great. Fuck off!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Nothing new to say, huh Sparky? >I would get a better "debate" from a rock. You are too fucking stupid to >know you are stupid, and you prove it constantly. >> Once again, you prove you have the emotions and debating skills of a >> 6-year >> old. >>>And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you >>>actually are. >>>>>Yes you have "your" priorities straight. >>>> I do… I value things like education over militarism. I also believe >>>> in >>>> diplomacy before violence. Get YOUR priorities straight, sparky. >>>>>You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. >>>> If I didn’t care about my country I wouldn’t bother to criticize it. >>>>>You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the >>>>>world? >>>> Face reality (I know it’s difficult) and try to get used to the fact >>>> that >>>> the cold war is OVER. Bush and all these guys in the Pentagon are >>>> trying >>>> to make the "war on terror" into the new cold war, but it’s bullshit. >>>> The only empire in the word at present is the US… there is no other >>>> threat that comes at all close to the USA in terms of military power. >>>> Not >>>> a chance. The only reason we maintain all these bases at this point >>>> is >>>> to >>>> assure that we can remain addicted to cheap fossil fuel. Just like >>>> many >>>> addicts, we’re ready to kill anyone who gets between us and our >>>> supplier. >>>>>Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. >>>> Read some history, pal. We won the second world war with a smaller >>>> military than we have now, in terms of firepower. There was no >>>> military/industrial complex until after WWII. >>>> Who is going to start WW-III, besides the USA, with our constant >>>> meddling >>>> and interferring with other sovereign nations? We’ve started more >>>> wars >>>> in >>>> since the end of WW-II than in the previous 150 years before that. We >>>> are >>>> pretty much the only aggressor with any real power now that the USSR >>>> is >>>> history. >>>>>You are one worthless fucking piece of shit. >>>> Jesus loves you… >>>>>>>> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports >>>>>>>> deal >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain >>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >>>>>>>> virtually unnoticed. >>>>>> Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around >>>>>> 250,000 >>>>>> personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret >>>>>> ops) >>>>>> and >>>>>> a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world >>>>>> COMBINED. >>>>>> And >>>>>> enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. >>>>>> Who has the empire, US or China?

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OT: And while we argue about Kerry this is happening

admin — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:00:00 +0000

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the good guy was tempted by the evil empire.

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them. But we can’t attack iran without their strategic location. (;>(

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Once again another stupid answer. UAE is on the other side of the Straits. It was a sarcastic joke.

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And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you actually are.

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As I recall, correct if wrong, they have been running ports in Miami for years….

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I would get a better "debate" from a rock. You are too fucking stupid to know you are stupid, and you prove it constantly.

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What the fuck? You are one fucking stupid S.O.B.

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You don’t have a capacity for debate. You are just frustrating & a total waste of anyone’s time.

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More NAIS

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<> You have already surrendered – they have already photographed your house. I can possibly retrieve the photo for you if you are interested. John Cowart

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> <> > You have already surrendered – they have already photographed your > house. I can possibly retrieve the photo for you if you are interested. > John Cowart

Yeah, go ahead.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -><register the premises so that the Department can subject these premises >to satellite surveillance is a clear violation of the Fourth >Amendment.>> >You’re too late… *ALL* houses and farms (along with everything else) >in the US are already being photographed by surveillance satellites on >a regular basis. As evidence, here is a photo of my house taken by a >medium resolution surveillance satellite. I certainly did not register >for or request this "service". >http://www.streamload.com/Deliver/Deliver.asp?cxInstID=35873071&nodeI… >There are much higher resolution photographs being made by other >surveillance satellites, but I haven’t figured out how to get to them >yet. >John Cowart

Access Denied You cannot access the content "HouseAerial.bmp".

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> < register the premises so that the Department can subject these premises > to satellite surveillance is a clear violation of the Fourth > Amendment.>> > You’re too late…

I’m glad you’re okay with it. I don’t intend to surrender that easily. — **** Please take a look at these pictures. http://www.american-pictures.com/gallery/usa/index_rural_indoor.htm There are an estimated 44,000 more locations just like these in the state of Texas alone, and over 2,000,000 in the US according to the US Census. There is no way they can comply with the NAIS. Does anyone really believe that people that have to live like this will comply with the NAIS? And, if they don’t the whole program is compromised. What will they do to these people? You don’t think they will fine them, do you? You don’t think they will take their property, do you. So, what will that say for our 14th Amendment of all being treated equally under the laws? Nancy Reagan had it right. JUST SAY NO! http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/about/pdf/NAIS_Draft_Strategic_Pl… http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_id/2005Dec_Animal_ID_FactSheet.pdf http://NoNAIS.org/ J.C.

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<> You’re too late… *ALL* houses and farms (along with everything else) in the US are already being photographed by surveillance satellites on a regular basis. As evidence, here is a photo of my house taken by a medium resolution surveillance satellite. I certainly did not register for or request this "service". http://www.streamload.com/Deliver/Deliver.asp?cxInstID=35873071&nodeI… There are much higher resolution photographs being made by other surveillance satellites, but I haven’t figured out how to get to them yet. John Cowart

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WESTON A. PRICE FOUNDATION INFORMATION ALERT March 20, 2006 I am forwarding to you an article I wrote for the upcoming Wise Traditions Journal (Winter 2005/Spring 2006) on the National Animal Identication System (NAIS). There has been an extraordinary amount of interest in this USDA instituted program. So, I thought it prudent to provide a heads up before the Journal was sent to you(currently being printed in a new format with a flat binding). The Foundation is working closely with member Judith McGeary in Texas and Mary Zanoni (Farm for Life) in New York as well as others on this very critical issue. At the end of the article is a list of resources for voicing your opinion on NAIS. THE NATIONAL ANIMAL IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM (NAIS) by Bill Sanda, Executive Director The development of the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has created enormous controversy across the country over the past year. Some see such a system as a means to track and identify outbreaks in livestock of various diseases such as brucellosis, E. coli variants, salmonella and mad cow disease in a quick and efficient manner, while others see this as an encroachment on their civil liberties and privacy as well as an attempt to seal the fate of small- to moderate-sized farms and ranches. CORPORATE SUPPORT NAIS has been gaining support in agribusiness as a method for sourcing the origins of mad cow disease or possible terrorist biological attacks on U.S. livestock. Opponents point out the plan was drawn up by corporations like Monsanto, the National Pork Producers, National Cattlemens Beef Association, and Cargill Meat. It would require all owners of even a single farm animal to register their home with a national tracking system, including global positioning coordinates (for satellite tracking) and implant or tag every animal with a radio frequency device (RFID). Large-scale livestock producers say NAIS would help them control outbreaks of disease by allowing individual animals to be tracked to their origins. Small-scale farmers say the registration fees, RFID expenses and administrative bureaucracy of the system would drive them out of business. According to the timelines presented in USDA’s NAIS website ( http://en.groundspring.org/EmailNow/pub.php?module=URLTracker&cmd=tra… ) , the program is to be implemented in full by January 2009 with premise registration and animal identification mandatory by January 2008. However, according to NAIS head Neil Hammerschmidt, the implementation dates may be delayed. WHAT IS NAIS? The National Animal Identification System, which the USDA is currently in the process of implementing, is intended to identify animals and poultry and record their movements over the course of their lifespans, as well as track them as they come into contact with, or commingle with, animals other than herd mates from their premises of origin. According to the USDA, the ultimate goal of the program is to create a uniform national animal tracking system that will help maintain the health of U.S. herds and flocks. By January 2009, when the program is intended to be fully implemented and become fully mandatory, the USDA expects that NAIS will be able to identify all premises and animals that have had direct contact with a foreign animal disease or a domestic disease of concern within 48 hours of discovery. Currently, working groups comprised of industry and government representatives are developing plans for cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, horses, poultry, bison, deer, elk, llamas and alpacas. Many of these animals can already be identified through some sort of identification system, but these systems are not consistent across the country, according to the USDA. NAIS began to take shape in April, 2002 when the National Institute for Animal Agriculture (NIAA) established a task force to create an animal identification plan. USDA’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) and over 30 livestock organizations participated in this task force. The final report was presented at the United States Animal Health Association’s (USAHA) annual meeting in October, 2002, where the work plan was accepted through a unanimous resolution. APHIS then established the National Identification Development Team (NIDT), a joint state, federal and industry group to further advance this effort. Throughout 2003, the NIDT, consisting of approximately 100 animal and livestock industry professionals representing more than 70 associations, organizations, and government agencies, expanded upon the work plan to produce the initial draft of the U.S. Animal Identification Plan (USAIP). Although early versions of the USAIP focused on food animals only, other livestock species (such as alpacas, llamas, and horses) were incorporated into the plan. In April 2004, the USDA announced the framework for implementing the NAIS. IMPLEMENTATION The first step in implementing the NAIS is identifying and registering premises that house animals. Such premises would include locations where livestock and poultry are managed, marketed or exhibited. States implemented the capability to register premises according to the national standards last year. APHIS is currently training state officials on how to use a standardized premises registration system. USDA is also evaluating alternative registration systems that states or others have developed and want to use, to ensure these systems meet the national standards. In addition, USDA is working with states and industry to "educate" the public about the NAIS. As premises are registered, another component of the NAIS-animal identification-will be integrated into the system. Unique animal identification numbers (AINs) will be issued to individually identified premises. In the case of animals that move in groups through the production chain-such as pigs and poultry-the group will be identified through a group/lot identification number (Group/Lot IDs). USDA is developing the standards for collecting and reporting information, but industry will determine which type of identification method works best for each species. These methods could include radio frequency identification tags, retinal scans, DNA or others. As long as the necessary data are sent to USDA’s information repositories in a standardized form, it will be accepted. As premises are registered and animals or groups of animals are identified based on the standard protocols, USDA will begin collecting information about animal movements from one premise to another. With an animal tracking system in place, USDA says they will be able to perform rapid tracebacks in case of an animal disease outbreak. As envisioned, only federal, state, and tribal animal health authorities would have direct access to the national premises and animal identification information repositories. Interestingly, the National Cattlemens Beef Association attempted to have the "national database" privatized and put under their control. Tam Moore of Capital Press, January 27, 2006, reported that the USDA has dropped a 6-month-old plan for contracting with a privatized central database to launch the cattle segment of ID. Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns had announced the single privatized concept back in July 2005. The Ranchers-Cattlemen Action Legal Fund (R-CALF), United Stockgrowers of America and other ID critics questioned USDA’s intention to concentrate the data with a system the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association organized, then spun off as a free-standing nonprofit organization, the U.S. Animal Identification Organization. Instead of a single, private database, USDA, state and tribal animal health agencies will use multiple databases, relying on those who contract with the USDA to furnish livestock tracking information. Much of the responsibility for delivering the program remains at the state level. Stages of development will allow states to more readily establish their local action items, according to the USDA. To determine what your state is doing with regards to NAIS, please go to http://en.groundspring.org/EmailNow/pub.php?module=URLTracker&cmd=tra… . CONFIDENTIALITY The NAIS is supposed to contain only information that animal health officials need to track suspect animals and identify any other animals that may have been exposed to a disease. Animal identification and tracking systems maintained by the states or regional alliances will be an integral part of the overall NAIS information infrastructure. The state and regional systems will be able to collect and maintain more information than is required for the NAIS, yet only the required data need to be available for the national animal records repository. According to the USDA, to help assure participants that the information will be used only for animal health purposes, the information will be confidential and USDA and its state partners are to work to protect data confidentiality. KEY NAIS MILESTONES APRIL, 2005: The USDA issued its Draft Strategic Plan & Draft Program Standards for public comment, which ended in July of 2005 ( http://en.groundspring.org/EmailNow/pub.php?module=URLTracker&cmd=tra… ) . JULY, 2005: All states capable of premises registration JULY, 2005: Animal Identification Number system operational. The following dates may be delayed according to the USDA. Updates have yet to be issued. JULY, 2006 : The target date for the USDA to issue a proposed rule setting forth the requirements for NAIS premises registration, animal identification, and animal tracking. There will be a limited public comment period after publication of the rule (WAPF will issue an Action Alert when the comment period occurs). APRIL, 2007: Premises registration and animal

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ot: time when Canada has whooped the US

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WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) – Ontario workers are well-trained. That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant. Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train – helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled workforce in Cambridge. "The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association, whose members will see increased business with the new plant. The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually. The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover research, training and infrastructure costs. Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for the Woodstock project. He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained – and often illiterate – workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment. "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson. "Most people don’t think of our health-care system as being a competitive advantage," he said. What made Toyota so sensitive to labor quality issues? Maybe we should discount remarks from the president of the Toronto-based Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association, who claimed that the educational level in the Southern United States was so low that trainers for Japanese plants in Alabama had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech equipment. But there are other reports, some coming from state officials, that confirm his basic point: Japanese auto companies opening plants in the Southern U.S. have been unfavorably surprised by the work force’s poor level of training. There’s some bitter irony here for Alabama’s governor. Just two years ago voters overwhelmingly rejected his plea for an increase in the state’s rock-bottom taxes on the affluent, so that he could afford to improve the state’s low-quality education system. Opponents of the tax hike convinced voters that it would cost the state jobs.

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Canadians work cheaper. Moral of this story.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) – Ontario workers are well-trained. > That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned > its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from > several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant. > Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train – > helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new > Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled > workforce in Cambridge. > "The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training > program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a > Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through > in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of > the Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association, whose members will see > increased business with the new plant. > The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini > sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It > plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually. > The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and > provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover > research, training and infrastructure costs. > Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double > that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would > have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for > the Woodstock project. > He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new > plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama > due to an untrained – and often illiterate – workforce. In Alabama, > trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how > to use high-tech plant equipment. > "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is > so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. > In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 > cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care > system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson. > "Most people don’t think of our health-care system as being a > competitive advantage," he said. > What made Toyota so sensitive to labor quality issues? Maybe we should > discount remarks from the president of the Toronto-based Automotive > Parts Manufacturers’ Association, who claimed that the educational > level in the Southern United States was so low that trainers for > Japanese plants in Alabama had to use "pictorials" to teach some > illiterate workers how to use high-tech equipment. > But there are other reports, some coming from state officials, that > confirm his basic point: Japanese auto companies opening plants in the > Southern U.S. have been unfavorably surprised by the work force’s poor > level of training. > There’s some bitter irony here for Alabama’s governor. Just two years > ago voters overwhelmingly rejected his plea for an increase in the > state’s rock-bottom taxes on the affluent, so that he could afford to > improve the state’s low-quality education system. Opponents of the tax > hike convinced voters that it would cost the state jobs.

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did courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Canadians work cheaper. Moral of this story. > WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) – Ontario workers are well-trained. > That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned > its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from > several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant. > Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train – > helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new > Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled > workforce in Cambridge. > "The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training > program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a > Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through > in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of > the Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association, whose members will see > increased business with the new plant. > The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini > sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It > plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually. > The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and > provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover > research, training and infrastructure costs. > Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double > that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would > have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for > the Woodstock project. > He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new > plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama > due to an untrained – and often illiterate – workforce. In Alabama, > trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how > to use high-tech plant equipment. > "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is > so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. > In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 > cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care > system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson. > "Most people don’t think of our health-care system as being a > competitive advantage," he said. > What made Toyota so sensitive to labor quality issues? Maybe we should > discount remarks from the president of the Toronto-based Automotive > Parts Manufacturers’ Association, who claimed that the educational > level in the Southern United States was so low that trainers for > Japanese plants in Alabama had to use "pictorials" to teach some > illiterate workers how to use high-tech equipment. > But there are other reports, some coming from state officials, that > confirm his basic point: Japanese auto companies opening plants in the > Southern U.S. have been unfavorably surprised by the work force’s poor > level of training. > There’s some bitter irony here for Alabama’s governor. Just two years > ago voters overwhelmingly rejected his plea for an increase in the > state’s rock-bottom taxes on the affluent, so that he could afford to > improve the state’s low-quality education system. Opponents of the tax > hike convinced voters that it would cost the state jobs.

Please don’t be a John Wheaton. Outlook Express stripped the OT: from the front of the subject header. Look up Free Agent from Forte. It doesn’t have this problem. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Doktor Freud, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Lars Overshank (aka ‘The Cowardly Lion’) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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There is that better? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > did courageously avow: >Canadians work cheaper. Moral of this story. >> WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) – Ontario workers are well-trained. >> That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned >> its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from >> several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant. >> Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train – >> helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new >> Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled >> workforce in Cambridge. >> "The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training >> program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a >> Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through >> in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of >> the Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association, whose members will see >> increased business with the new plant. >> The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini >> sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It >> plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually. >> The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and >> provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover >> research, training and infrastructure costs. >> Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double >> that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would >> have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for >> the Woodstock project. >> He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new >> plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama >> due to an untrained – and often illiterate – workforce. In Alabama, >> trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how >> to use high-tech plant equipment. >> "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is >> so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. >> In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 >> cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care >> system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson. >> "Most people don’t think of our health-care system as being a >> competitive advantage," he said. >> What made Toyota so sensitive to labor quality issues? Maybe we should >> discount remarks from the president of the Toronto-based Automotive >> Parts Manufacturers’ Association, who claimed that the educational >> level in the Southern United States was so low that trainers for >> Japanese plants in Alabama had to use "pictorials" to teach some >> illiterate workers how to use high-tech equipment. >> But there are other reports, some coming from state officials, that >> confirm his basic point: Japanese auto companies opening plants in the >> Southern U.S. have been unfavorably surprised by the work force’s poor >> level of training. >> There’s some bitter irony here for Alabama’s governor. Just two years >> ago voters overwhelmingly rejected his plea for an increase in the >> state’s rock-bottom taxes on the affluent, so that he could afford to >> improve the state’s low-quality education system. Opponents of the tax >> hike convinced voters that it would cost the state jobs. > Please don’t be a John Wheaton. Outlook Express stripped the OT: from > the front of the subject header. Look up Free Agent from Forte. It > doesn’t have this problem. > Ken Wilson > Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Doktor Freud, > Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the > Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) > and, at his own request, Lars Overshank (aka ‘The Cowardly Lion’) > Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca > http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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the whole story to the moral of the story He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained – and often illiterate – workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment. "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

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Since you are monitoring, there are around 40 posts on my server with no OT. Please discipline them. That is if you have time, while your grieving for the poor Japanese we vaporized, the poor Indians we wiped out, the Iraq innocent leadership we threw out, etc.etc.etc.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is that better? > did courageously avow: >>Canadians work cheaper. Moral of this story. >>> WOODSTOCK, Ont. (CP) – Ontario workers are well-trained. >>> That simple explanation was cited as a main reason why Toyota turned >>> its back on hundreds of millions of dollars in subsidies offered from >>> several American states in favour of building a second Ontario plant. >>> Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train – >>> helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new >>> Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled >>> workforce in Cambridge. >>> "The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training >>> program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a >>> Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through >>> in the southeastern United States," said Gerry Fedchun, president of >>> the Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association, whose members will see >>> increased business with the new plant. >>> The plant will produce the RAV-4, dubbed by some as a "mini >>> sport-utility vehicle" that Toyota currently makes only in Japan. It >>> plans to build 100,000 vehicles annually. >>> The factory will cost $800 million to build, with the federal and >>> provincial governments kicking in $125 million of that to help cover >>> research, training and infrastructure costs. >>> Several U.S. states were reportedly prepared to offer more than double >>> that amount of subsidy. But Fedchun said much of that extra money would >>> have been eaten away by higher training costs than are necessary for >>> the Woodstock project. >>> He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new >>> plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama >>> due to an untrained – and often illiterate – workforce. In Alabama, >>> trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how >>> to use high-tech plant equipment. >>> "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is >>> so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. >>> In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 >>> cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care >>> system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson. >>> "Most people don’t think of our health-care system as being a >>> competitive advantage," he said. >>> What made Toyota so sensitive to labor quality issues? Maybe we should >>> discount remarks from the president of the Toronto-based Automotive >>> Parts Manufacturers’ Association, who claimed that the educational >>> level in the Southern United States was so low that trainers for >>> Japanese plants in Alabama had to use "pictorials" to teach some >>> illiterate workers how to use high-tech equipment. >>> But there are other reports, some coming from state officials, that >>> confirm his basic point: Japanese auto companies opening plants in the >>> Southern U.S. have been unfavorably surprised by the work force’s poor >>> level of training. >>> There’s some bitter irony here for Alabama’s governor. Just two years >>> ago voters overwhelmingly rejected his plea for an increase in the >>> state’s rock-bottom taxes on the affluent, so that he could afford to >>> improve the state’s low-quality education system. Opponents of the tax >>> hike convinced voters that it would cost the state jobs. > Please don’t be a John Wheaton. Outlook Express stripped the OT: from > the front of the subject header. Look up Free Agent from Forte. It > doesn’t have this problem. > Ken Wilson > Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Doktor Freud, > Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the > Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) > and, at his own request, Lars Overshank (aka ‘The Cowardly Lion’) > Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca > http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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Exactly, the work cheaper & they have a socialist health care program, because "WE<< the U.S. taxpayers" provide their security. They don’t have to spend much on defense. Thanx for pointing that out. We got 2 more dang fires close by today. Next person I see toss a ciggy out the window, I will ram & beat the hell out of them! Texas Blue

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> the whole story to the moral of the story > He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new > plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama > due to an untrained – and often illiterate – workforce. In Alabama, > trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how > to use high-tech plant equipment. > "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is > so much lower than it is in Ontario," Fedchun said. > In addition to lower training costs, Canadian workers are also $4 to $5 > cheaper to employ partly thanks to the taxpayer-funded health-care > system in Canada, said federal Industry Minister David Emmerson.

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gimme a break – pictorials??? I mean we cain’t read no more. Every year the women’s club in town raises money by having a Christmas tour of homes. All the socialists decorate their houses and they charge the hoi poi $$$ for a peak. I think you can get a pretty good idea about a person by looking at his book shelf. I am always shocked by how little people read. Most of these homes don’t even have a book shelf or a book on the night stand. You might see a Bible and a cook book or two but I’d say three outta four (and these are supposed to be our creme de la creme) don’t read so it comes as no surpise that the working stiff in Alabama need pictorials to learn his job. Also the Canadian health system focuses more on prevention then we do, so the work force does not get sick as much as down here where it costs at least $300 to get anything checked out so most people don’t until it’s a crisis and then it really costs or the patient dies. We taxpayers support WalMart plenty (corporate socialism) and when their employees finally show up at the emergency room it costs 4-5 times as much as what Canada paid to prevent the problem in their employees. As to defense – maybe Canada doesn’t have as many enemies as we do??? And maybe they beat us in the last war we started against them???? So why should they worry???

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did courageously avow: >There is that better? > Please don’t be a John Wheaton. Outlook Express stripped the OT: from > the front of the subject header. Look up Free Agent from Forte. It > doesn’t have this problem. > Ken Wilson

I just took a look at your header for this message. As long as you use Outlook Express it will strip the OT: while you’re not looking so you haven’t done anything other than to manually re-include the OT:. If you want to do this for every OT: post you respond to be your guest. Free Agent is free and it gives you better functionality than Outlook Express while not stripping subject header contents. http://www.forteinc.com/agent/ Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Doktor Freud, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Lars Overshank (aka ‘The Cowardly Lion’) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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did courageously avow: >Since you are monitoring, there are around 40 posts on my server with no OT. >Please discipline them. >That is if you have time, while your grieving for the poor Japanese we >vaporized, the poor Indians we wiped out, the Iraq innocent leadership we >threw out, etc.etc.etc.

You can go to the same hell as John Wheaton. I’m merely trying to assist in keeping OT threads marked as OT and have offered you a solution. If you want to be the same infantile moron as John Wheaton by all means that is your prerogative. Hell, you can be the next Marc Mulay if it floats your boat. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Doktor Freud, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Lars Overshank (aka ‘The Cowardly Lion’) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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did courageously avow: >Exactly, the work cheaper & they have a socialist health care program, >because "WE<< the U.S. taxpayers" provide their security. They don’t have to >spend much on defense. >Thanx for pointing that out.

And here I thought all the whine in the U.S. only came from the Napa Valley. Sounds like somebody has a bad case of the Texan Sour Grapes. :-p Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Doktor Freud, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Lars Overshank (aka ‘The Cowardly Lion’) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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>Exactly, the work cheaper & they have a socialist health care program,

I get $26 an hour… $40 overtime… you? >because "WE<< the U.S. taxpayers" provide their security. They don’t have to >spend much on defense.

ummm security from who? Exactly how are you saving us money on defense?? I’m sure we could ask the British to nuke anyone bothering us… It’s true that we don’t have a huge military, but how could we? We have the population of NY state! California is more populous then us! How big is their navy?! But you know what? We have to build a fleet of icebreakers now, to defend our arctic… against who? YOU!! The US of A who like to trespass in our waters!

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What made Toyota so sensitive to labor quality issues? Maybe we should discount remarks from the president of the Toronto-based Automotive Parts Manufacturers’ Association, who claimed that the educational level in the Southern United States was so low that trainers for Japanese plants in Alabama had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech equipment. and health care

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hummmmm you can acuse me of run-on sentances today. But as I posted in this message – Canadians can take care of themselves, even in a fight with us. They don’t need no stinkin US Armed Forces.

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OT Wilma .. Wilma ! WILLLMA

admin — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Yaba daba doo get dino and bambam and lets go. Another class 5 and it’s not even over open water yet.

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> Yaba daba doo get dino and bambam and lets go. > Another class 5 and it’s not even over open water yet.

Yeah… don’t you liberals wish GWB would stop making those damn things already? Lars

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It’s a planned distraction from RoveGate and Mires appointment commissioned by Condi and Rumsy. You haven’t been playing attention have you ? W never makes a move with those two evil twins whispering into empty head. Rumor has it Cheney will fall on the sword and let Condi step up ! First black VP aka president elect to go against Jillary.

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> on’t you liberals wish GWB would stop making those damn things > already?

It’s God punishing the red states.

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> > on’t you liberals wish GWB would stop making those damn things > already? > It’s God punishing the red states.

Sure — by making them even more red than they were. That’ll sure learn ‘em, won’t it? Whatever you say, buddy, Lars

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > on’t you liberals wish GWB would stop making those damn things > > already? > It’s God punishing the red states. > Sure — by making them even more red than they were. That’ll sure learn > ‘em, won’t it? > Whatever you say, buddy, > Lars

why? It’s just like you all whoopin yer kids all the time?

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Who knows? Maybe Bush did??? or maybe the Yakusa did??? http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1281146.html Some storms release the energy equivalent of several nuclear weapons. Washington’s New World Order Weapons Have the Ability to Trigger Climate Change by Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa Third World Resurgence, January 2001 Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), globalresearch.ca, 4 January 2002 The important debate on global warming under UN auspices provides but a partial picture of climate change; in addition to the devastating impacts of greenhouse gas emissions on the ozone layer, the World’s climate can now be modified as part of a new generation of sophisticated "non-lethal weapons." Both the Americans and the Russians have developed capabilities to manipulate the World’s climate. In the US, the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) as part of the ("Star Wars") Strategic Defence Initiative (SDI). Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction. Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire regions. The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO201A.html Forecaster leaves job to pursue weather theories By Jana Peterson and John O’Connell – Journal writers >From the Idaho State Journal

POCATELLO – To the rest of the country, Scott Stevens is the Idaho weatherman who blames the Japanese Mafia for Hurricane Katrina. To folks in Pocatello, he’s the face of the weather at KPVI News Channel 6. The Pocatello native made his final Channel 6 forecast Thursday night, leaving a job he’s held for nine years in order to pursue his weather theories on a full-time basis. "I’m going to miss that broadcast, but I’m not going to miss not getting home until 11 p.m.," Stevens said. "I just don’t have the hours of the day to take care of my research and getting those (broadcasts) out and devoting the necessary research to the station." It was Stevens’ decision to leave the TV station, said KPVI general manager Bill Fouch. "When Scott signed his current contract, he told Brenda and me at the time that it would be his last contract," Fouch said Thursday. "We knew, but the timetable moved up because of all the attention (he’s been getting.)" Since Katrina, Stevens has been in newspapers across the country where he was quoted in an Associated Press story as saying the Yakuza Mafia used a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to cause Hurricane Katrina in a bid to avenge the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He was a guest on Coast to Coast, a late night radio show that conducts call-in discussions on everything from bizarre weather patterns to alien abductions. On Wednesday, Stevens was interviewed by Fox News firebrand Bill O’Reilly. Stevens said he received 30 requests to do radio interviews on Thursday alone. Fouch said Stevens wanted to leave as quickly as possible because his "plate is full," and he needs to take advantage of the opportunities that exist now. Stevens said he’s received offers that he’s not at liberty to discuss. Stevens, 39, who was born in Twin Falls, plans to remain in Pocatello, where his family remains. He said his family wishes him the best in his future endeavors. It costs him hundreds of dollars each month to run his Web site, weatherwars.info, but he said that’s a price he’s willing to pay. "There’s a chess game going on in the sky," Stevens said. "It affects each and every one of us. It is the one common thread that binds us all together." Although the theories espoused by Stevens – scalar weapons, global dimming – are definitely on the scientific fringe today, there are thousands of Web sites that mention such phenomena. "The Soviets boasted of their geoengineering capabilities; these impressive accomplishments must be taken at face value simply because we are observing weather events that simply have never occurred before, never!" Stevens wrote on his Web site. "The evidence of these weapons at work found within the clouds overhead is simply unmistakable. These patterns and odd geometric shapes seen in our skies, each and every day, are clear and present evidence that our weather has been stolen from us, only to be used by those whose designs for humanity are rarely in alignment with that of the common man." However, Stevens never discussed his weather theories on the air during his time at Channel 6 – an agreement he had with the station management. What the meteorologist chose to do in his off time was his business, said his manager of eight years. Fouch said he would miss Stevens, whom he described as energetic, easy-going and enthusiastic about the weather, but he is supportive of his decision to pursue his passion. "His theories are his theories," Fouch said. "But, if you think about it – of all the TV weather people, he continues to be the most accurate. It isn’t his theories getting involved with his professional job." For Stevens, however, the recent attention to his theories has been somewhat of a distraction from work. "When there has been so much attention, it gets in the way of them doing their jobs and me doing my job," Stevens said. Find out more: To learn more about Stevens and his thoughts on manipulated weather, check out his Web site at www.weatherwars.info, or go to www.journalnet.com/articles/2005/03/06/opinion/opinion04.txt to read the story that Journal City Editor Greg McReynolds wrote about Stevens in March.

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courageously avow: > Yaba daba doo get dino and bambam and lets go. > Another class 5 and it’s not even over open water yet. >Yeah… don’t you liberals wish GWB would stop making those damn things >already? >Lars

No, we’d just like him to target your place so we can be sure of ridding ourselves of at least one floater once and for all. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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courageously avow: > on’t you liberals wish GWB would stop making those damn things > already? >It’s God punishing the red states.

You think God could improve his aim. He keeps beating the shit out of Louisiana. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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: courageously avow: : : > : >> on’t you liberals wish GWB would stop making those damn things : >> already? : > : >It’s God punishing the red states. : : You think God could improve his aim. He keeps beating the shit out of : Louisiana. Actually Florida has taken more hits. It’s just that Lousiana took a hard one : : Ken Wilson : : Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, : Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the : Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) : and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) : Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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Heh heh heh… see? You all thought I was kidding, but they *really do* think he did it. No wonder they’re so easy to beat at the ballot box. And look who their reporter is, too… Lars – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Who knows? Maybe Bush did??? or maybe the Yakusa did??? > http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1281146.html > Some storms release the energy equivalent of several nuclear weapons. > Washington’s New World Order Weapons Have the Ability to Trigger > Climate Change > by Michel Chossudovsky, Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa > Third World Resurgence, January 2001 > Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), globalresearch.ca, 4 > January 2002 > The important debate on global warming under UN auspices provides but a > partial picture of climate change; in addition to the devastating > impacts of greenhouse gas emissions on the ozone layer, the World’s > climate can now be modified as part of a new generation of > sophisticated "non-lethal weapons." Both the Americans and the Russians > have developed capabilities to manipulate the World’s climate. > In the US, the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency > Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) as part of the ("Star Wars") > Strategic Defence Initiative (SDI). Recent scientific evidence suggests > that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially > triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes. From a > military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction. > Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of > selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire > regions. > The URL of this article is: > http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO201A.html > Forecaster leaves job to pursue weather theories > By Jana Peterson and John O’Connell – Journal writers >From the Idaho State Journal > POCATELLO – To the rest of the country, Scott Stevens is the Idaho > weatherman who blames the Japanese Mafia for Hurricane Katrina. To > folks in Pocatello, he’s the face of the weather at KPVI News Channel > 6. > The Pocatello native made his final Channel 6 forecast Thursday night, > leaving a job he’s held for nine years in order to pursue his weather > theories on a full-time basis. > "I’m going to miss that broadcast, but I’m not going to miss not > getting home until 11 p.m.," Stevens said. "I just don’t have the hours > of the day to take care of my research and getting those (broadcasts) > out and devoting the necessary research to the station." > It was Stevens’ decision to leave the TV station, said KPVI general > manager Bill Fouch. > "When Scott signed his current contract, he told Brenda and me at the > time that it would be his last contract," Fouch said Thursday. "We > knew, but the timetable moved up because of all the attention (he’s > been getting.)" > Since Katrina, Stevens has been in newspapers across the country where > he was quoted in an Associated Press story as saying the Yakuza Mafia > used a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to cause Hurricane > Katrina in a bid to avenge the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He was > a guest on Coast to Coast, a late night radio show that conducts > call-in discussions on everything from bizarre weather patterns to > alien abductions. On Wednesday, Stevens was interviewed by Fox News > firebrand Bill O’Reilly. > Stevens said he received 30 requests to do radio interviews on Thursday > alone. > Fouch said Stevens wanted to leave as quickly as possible because his > "plate is full," and he needs to take advantage of the opportunities > that exist now. > Stevens said he’s received offers that he’s not at liberty to discuss. > Stevens, 39, who was born in Twin Falls, plans to remain in Pocatello, > where his family remains. He said his family wishes him the best in his > future endeavors. > It costs him hundreds of dollars each month to run his Web site, > weatherwars.info, but he said that’s a price he’s willing to pay. > "There’s a chess game going on in the sky," Stevens said. "It affects > each and every one of us. It is the one common thread that binds us all > together." > Although the theories espoused by Stevens – scalar weapons, global > dimming – are definitely on the scientific fringe today, there are > thousands of Web sites that mention such phenomena. > "The Soviets boasted of their geoengineering capabilities; these > impressive accomplishments must be taken at face value simply because > we are observing weather events that simply have never occurred before, > never!" Stevens wrote on his Web site. "The evidence of these weapons > at work found within the clouds overhead is simply unmistakable. These > patterns and odd geometric shapes seen in our skies, each and every > day, are clear and present evidence that our weather has been stolen > from us, only to be used by those whose designs for humanity are rarely > in alignment with that of the common man." > However, Stevens never discussed his weather theories on the air during > his time at Channel 6 – an agreement he had with the station > management. What the meteorologist chose to do in his off time was his > business, said his manager of eight years. > Fouch said he would miss Stevens, whom he described as energetic, > easy-going and enthusiastic about the weather, but he is supportive of > his decision to pursue his passion. > "His theories are his theories," Fouch said. "But, if you think about > it – of all the TV weather people, he continues to be the most > accurate. It isn’t his theories getting involved with his professional > job." > For Stevens, however, the recent attention to his theories has been > somewhat of a distraction from work. > "When there has been so much attention, it gets in the way of them > doing their jobs and me doing my job," Stevens said. > Find out more: > To learn more about Stevens and his thoughts on manipulated weather, > check out his Web site at www.weatherwars.info, or go to > www.journalnet.com/articles/2005/03/06/opinion/opinion04.txt to read > the story that Journal City Editor Greg McReynolds wrote about Stevens > in March.

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Weather wars is a favorite topic of branches of the paranoid right wing. Ask Green/Pace. http://www.weatherwars.info/ This site is not run by a Liberal. nor this one http://www.suite101.com/topic_page.cfm/6778/5375 nor this one http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html and a toy of our government, harless no doubt http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/ion2.html Actually I think these storms are cause by warming oceans and do not subscribe to these theories but who knows? (only the shadow knows)

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> >It’s God punishing the red states. > You think God could improve his aim. He keeps beating the shit out of > Louisiana.

They voted for Dubya last time and just look what happens.

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I’m not paranoid. I sleep with a red head, that I taught how to shoot. I am completely secure with myself. Note: she’s a "crack" shot. H.A.A.R.P. has been around for awhile. All these other sites have reference info. Decide for yourself. I have no idea about setting off volcanoes. A professor friend, once explained H.A.A.P. to me. At that time<< years ago, the fear was they would tear a hole in the ionosphere. I would guess, that after all these years, whatever they have "actually" done would be well improved. All these so called weather , volcanoes, etc. events, I doubt were caused by anything earthly. Type, Tesla , into your browser. He had "something" that caused strange things to happen. But then again, go check for yourself. The current research on the sun, explains allot! Texas Blue

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Weather wars is a favorite topic of branches of the paranoid right > wing. Ask Green/Pace. > http://www.weatherwars.info/ > This site is not run by a Liberal. > nor this one > http://www.suite101.com/topic_page.cfm/6778/5375 > nor this one > http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html > and a toy of our government, harless no doubt > http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/ion2.html > Actually I think these storms are cause by warming oceans and do not > subscribe to these theories but who knows? (only the shadow knows)

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did courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’m not paranoid. I sleep with a red head, that I taught how to shoot. I am >completely secure with myself. Note: she’s a "crack" shot. >H.A.A.R.P. has been around for awhile. >All these other sites have reference info. >Decide for yourself. >I have no idea about setting off volcanoes. >A professor friend, once explained H.A.A.P. >to me. At that time<< years ago, the fear was they would tear a hole in the >ionosphere. >I would guess, that after all these years, whatever they have "actually" >done would be well improved. > All these so called weather , volcanoes, etc. events, I doubt were caused >by anything earthly. >Type, Tesla , into your browser. He had "something" that caused strange >things to happen. >But then again, go check for yourself. >The current research on the sun, explains allot! >Texas Blue > Weather wars is a favorite topic of branches of the paranoid right > wing. Ask Green/Pace. > http://www.weatherwars.info/ > This site is not run by a Liberal. > nor this one > http://www.suite101.com/topic_page.cfm/6778/5375 > nor this one > http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html > and a toy of our government, harless no doubt > http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/ion2.html > Actually I think these storms are cause by warming oceans and do not > subscribe to these theories but who knows? (only the shadow knows)

What I want to know is who got close enough to the sun to takes it temperature so they could tell us it had a fever and that explains global warming. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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> > >It’s God punishing the red states. > You think God could improve his aim. He keeps beating the shit out of > Louisiana. > They voted for Dubya last time and just look what happens.

No kidding ’see what happens’… the Dem gov starts crying about how the state will become MUCH MORE red than it was because of all the liberals who aren’t coming back. We’ll take it. Lars

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That was a joke, right? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > did courageously avow: >I’m not paranoid. I sleep with a red head, that I taught how to shoot. I >am >completely secure with myself. Note: she’s a "crack" shot. >H.A.A.R.P. has been around for awhile. >All these other sites have reference info. >Decide for yourself. >I have no idea about setting off volcanoes. >A professor friend, once explained H.A.A.P. >to me. At that time<< years ago, the fear was they would tear a hole in >the >ionosphere. >I would guess, that after all these years, whatever they have "actually" >done would be well improved. > All these so called weather , volcanoes, etc. events, I doubt were caused >by anything earthly. >Type, Tesla , into your browser. He had "something" that caused strange >things to happen. >But then again, go check for yourself. >The current research on the sun, explains allot! >Texas Blue >> Weather wars is a favorite topic of branches of the paranoid right >> wing. Ask Green/Pace. >> http://www.weatherwars.info/ >> This site is not run by a Liberal. >> nor this one >> http://www.suite101.com/topic_page.cfm/6778/5375 >> nor this one >> http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html >> and a toy of our government, harless no doubt >> http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/ion2.html >> Actually I think these storms are cause by warming oceans and do not >> subscribe to these theories but who knows? (only the shadow knows) > What I want to know is who got close enough to the sun to takes it > temperature so they could tell us it had a fever and that explains > global warming. > Ken Wilson > Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, > Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the > Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) > and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) > Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca > http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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Green Pace, if you have to ask that question your sense of humor is in the morgue.

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> Green Pace, if you have to ask that question your sense of humor is in > the morgue.

The use of gallows humor and dark humor during crisis situations. Maxwell W. Types of humor as used by crisis interveners and first responders to emergency situations will be reviewed. Various disciplines, authors, researchers, and practitioners will be cited to help explain and clarify issues related to the use of humor in such situations and settings. The main focus is on the use of humor as a cognitive and/or behavioral coping strategy which is considered by many to be a reaction to stress events. The article proposes a model including progressive steps of humor, ranging from a respectful to a sarcastic. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&…

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did courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->That was a joke, right? > did courageously avow: >>I’m not paranoid. I sleep with a red head, that I taught how to shoot. I >>am >>completely secure with myself. Note: she’s a "crack" shot. >>H.A.A.R.P. has been around for awhile. >>All these other sites have reference info. >>Decide for yourself. >>I have no idea about setting off volcanoes. >>A professor friend, once explained H.A.A.P. >>to me. At that time<< years ago, the fear was they would tear a hole in >>the >>ionosphere. >>I would guess, that after all these years, whatever they have "actually" >>done would be well improved. >> All these so called weather , volcanoes, etc. events, I doubt were caused >>by anything earthly. >>Type, Tesla , into your browser. He had "something" that caused strange >>things to happen. >>But then again, go check for yourself. >>The current research on the sun, explains allot! >>Texas Blue >>> Weather wars is a favorite topic of branches of the paranoid right >>> wing. Ask Green/Pace. >>> http://www.weatherwars.info/ >>> This site is not run by a Liberal. >>> nor this one >>> http://www.suite101.com/topic_page.cfm/6778/5375 >>> nor this one >>> http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html >>> and a toy of our government, harless no doubt >>> http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/ion2.html >>> Actually I think these storms are cause by warming oceans and do not >>> subscribe to these theories but who knows? (only the shadow knows) > What I want to know is who got close enough to the sun to takes it > temperature so they could tell us it had a fever and that explains > global warming. > Ken Wilson > Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, > Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the > Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) > and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) > Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca > http://www.criticalhistory.com/

It had better have been or I’m in worse trouble than even I’ll admit. ;^) Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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Ok, just wanted to be sure! (;>} – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > did courageously avow: >That was a joke, right? >> did courageously avow: >>>I’m not paranoid. I sleep with a red head, that I taught how to shoot. I >>>am >>>completely secure with myself. Note: she’s a "crack" shot. >>>H.A.A.R.P. has been around for awhile. >>>All these other sites have reference info. >>>Decide for yourself. >>>I have no idea about setting off volcanoes. >>>A professor friend, once explained H.A.A.P. >>>to me. At that time<< years ago, the fear was they would tear a hole in >>>the >>>ionosphere. >>>I would guess, that after all these years, whatever they have "actually" >>>done would be well improved. >>> All these so called weather , volcanoes, etc. events, I doubt were >>> caused >>>by anything earthly. >>>Type, Tesla , into your browser. He had "something" that caused strange >>>things to happen. >>>But then again, go check for yourself. >>>The current research on the sun, explains allot! >>>Texas Blue >>>> Weather wars is a favorite topic of branches of the paranoid right >>>> wing. Ask Green/Pace. >>>> http://www.weatherwars.info/ >>>> This site is not run by a Liberal. >>>> nor this one >>>> http://www.suite101.com/topic_page.cfm/6778/5375 >>>> nor this one >>>> http://www.cheniere.org/toc.html >>>> and a toy of our government, harless no doubt >>>> http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/ion2.html >>>> Actually I think these storms are cause by warming oceans and do not >>>> subscribe to these theories but who knows? (only the shadow knows) >> What I want to know is who got close enough to the sun to takes it >> temperature so they could tell us it had a fever and that explains >> global warming. >> Ken Wilson >> Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, >> Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of >> the >> Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) >> and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) >> Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca >> http://www.criticalhistory.com/ > It had better have been or I’m in worse trouble than even I’ll admit. > ;^) > Ken Wilson > Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, > Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the > Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) > and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) > Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca > http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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Yeah, anybody who doesn’t know the difference between your and you’re NEEDS to ask if a joke is a joke. :P You’re forgiven your inadequacies.

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YOU ARE Thanked.

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did courageously avow: >YOU ARE Thanked. > Yeah, anybody who doesn’t know the difference between your and you’re > NEEDS to ask if a joke is a joke. :P You’re forgiven your > inadequacies.

We had a teacher for a couple of our computer courses who enforced what we called the Dreaded Its Rule. The deal was if he saw its in any of your work where it’s was the proper term, or vice versa, it was an automatic 10% off your final grade. And this included the comments within code. His logic there was that you are communicating information and all rules of grammar summarily apply. Ken Wilson Proud Owner of Lord Valve, PMG, John Wheaton, Claude Lucas, Freep the Xenophobe, Chuck, pseudobacker, Max Floater and the rest of the Union of Rightwing Idiots Needing Explanations (URINE) and, at his own request, Karl Rovershank (aka Lars from Mars) Supporting the Troops at http://www.resisters.ca http://www.criticalhistory.com/

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> Yaba daba doo get dino and bambam and lets go. > Another class 5 and it’s not even over open water yet.

I was wondering if they’d just name this one "Dubya"… The Repair Guy http://repairguy1993.netfirms.com/

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Rebuilt New Orleans will have fewer poor blacks

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