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Hi, I’m considering getting my tongue pierced. The problem is I have to compete in bicycle races every weekend. This weekend is a stage race. Will the swelling affect performance and/or breathing during times of *hard* physical exertion? How soon can solid food be eaten after the pierce is done? Does it depend on the person? If I do get it done the race would be two days later. I know I can change my diet to liquid concentrated carbohydrates to recover for the next day. My main fear is with the swelling. Thank you in advance. Craig
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> Hi, I’m considering getting my tongue pierced.
[snip] The tongue seems to be the pierce-of-the-month. *SIGH* Just about the time one tongue-piercing thread dies, andother one starts up… *SIGH* Are’nt the FAQs supposed to relieve us of this? >The problem is I have >to compete in bicycle races every weekend. This weekend is a stage >race. >Will the swelling affect performance and/or breathing during times >of *hard* physical exertion?
My Hubby, Julian, and I have a SM relationship as an extension of our emotional/sexual bond. I had a fairly heavy scene planned for the week we were together after his birthday (he lives 600 miles away), but we had Aardvark pierce our tongues the 2nd day out, and we were laid up for a while. I tend to heal very fast, but it was still 4 days before the swelling went down. Julian’s swelled more like 9 or 10 days. What we both noticed what that this piercing is the most EXHAUSTING of any of them. I haven’t come up with a reasonable explination. It just felt like I had the flu for a couple of days. Needless to say- no SM scene for us that week! (Which is why the scene this past week ended up lasting 3 days… all that repressed energy!). >How soon can solid food be eaten after the >pierce is done?
Go read the frigg’n FAQ… >Does it depend on the person?
YES. You seem to have read this group long enough to have at least figured THAT out… * < The Scorpion > * "I believe very strongly in freedom of * * Christopher P. Stone * -Robert A. Heinlein *
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>My Hubby, Julian, and I have a SM relationship as an extension of our >emotional/sexual bond. I had a fairly heavy scene planned for the week
You guys got married already?!?!? I thought that you just met a few months ago? When did this happen? Congrats, anyway… -Jesster (or was that a figure of speech?)
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|> >My Hubby, Julian, and I have a SM relationship as an extension of our |> >emotional/sexual bond. I had a fairly heavy scene planned for the week |> |> You guys got married already?!?!? |> I thought that you just met a few months ago? |> When did this happen? |> Congrats, anyway… First of all, thank you! Now, because of all the e-mail generated by our relationship (and after telling this story to Chris Barefoot a week ago and realizing that not everyone had put all the pieces together…) I’ll tell the story… I met Julian over the Internet. It probably isn’t that uncommon. What seems odd is the Usenet newsgroup we met through; rec.arts.bodyart. I had seen his posts on alt.sex.motss, alt.sex.bondage, and alt.sex.fetish.watersports… and if my newsreader of the time had a "kill author" command, I would have put him in it very quickly. His porn was among the hottest I had ever seen in my 7 years of lurking, but his posts were outrageous and obnoxious. The final straw came just before Christmas break during a thread in rec.arts.bodyart on concealing your Prince Albert piercing while pissing. I told an amusing story about an old Prof. at my college seeing my PA and literally jumping away… and Julian followed up with a long discourse on how HE would have drank my piss and then made me drink his… it was a really hot come-on! Well, I responded, but with a flame in private e-mail, mostly over his hiding behind an anon address. His response was not nearly so erotic, but it did start a chain of e-mail that ended up with the two of us writing over 200 pages of letters to each other before I had to return back to school. We discovered almost perfect compatibility on all grounds. Never have I met a person more like myself. Never have I been so frightened that my kinks at twenty took another man 53 years to develop. The timing was perfect. I was just going through the motions of ending a seven year relationship with a chicken hawk I had sought out when I was 13. My tastes had changed over time however, and I always regretted that I hadn’t found a leatherdad instead. I had been reading a.s.b. since I learned how to hack into the computer system of the large university in my home town… and I knew from the start that while vanilla sex was nice, I needed more or my mind starts to wander. My chickenhawk and I My chickenhawk and I had played some vanilla bondage games, but he never seemed very interested in anything more than candle wax, and we started to grow in different directions sexually. I regressed to auto-SM experimentation. My piercings were about the last straw. I had to have him re-pierce one of my nipples (after I botched it the first time), and it took him a year to get used to them… then I got my Prince Albert, and it was just too much. Add to that my leather fetish & septum pierce, and he really didn’t want to be seen in public with me. Julian, on the other hand, had been in a relationship for 20 years, but had experienced the same problems I had- a lover who absolutely no SM instincts, and whose attempts were never wholly successful. They had divorced 5 years earlier, and he was just now ready for a new relationship. His story was so much like my own, we really sparked. Soon we had plans for him to visit me at the end of January, barley one month since my first private letter to him. [There is a whole long story here describing our first week/scenes together, and if you really want to see it, e-mail me] Basically, the first week we spent in my dorm room at Rose-Hulman and made out. We did each have a chance to play top- the culmination of the scene with him topping was that he pierced my left ear (which I had to beg him to only do in 16 ga, rather than 10 like his). We have managed from that point to spend about 4 of the last 6 weeks together (thanks mostly to the fact that I am on a quarter system and have 2 spring breaks, while he has to travel a lot for research purposes). A month ago, when we were visiting his place out east, we had our tongues pierced by Ardvark to symbolize us- somewhere between being engaged and married. The tongues did get in the way of sex and SM, and Julian like to point out that the tongues were MY idea (although it was one of the things that lead him to believe that WE were right for each other). I wanted to have SOMETHING pierced that neither of us had pierced, and it was to be that or the guiche. When I found out that Ardverk doesn’t live far from Julians "plantation", I decided that it would be just *PERFECT* to have the keeper of the rab piercing FAQ pierce us! My sex life has gotten musch more interesting since meeting Julian, mostly from his encouragement (and he rather enjoys reading about my sex-capades over the net). I’ve also gotten an ampallang mostly because I saw how wonderful his was (and I got tired very quickly of listing to his shit about how *I* wasn’t butch enough for him because I didn’t have a piece of steel through the GLANDS!) After this last week though (and the three-day-SM-scene), we decided that we were basically married (well, we also went out and bought china, and crystal, and prepared a HUGE, faggy, easter dinner for his brother and family). It’s been an amazing techno-romance… and my head is still spinning. I have spent more time with him in the last two months than I would have believed possible, yet somehow we managed. After teh $360 phone bill the first month, we have relied soley on e-mail and UNIX talk. I don’t know what we would do without ‘em! I can’t say I regret my decision. I have found the most wonderful man. It’s also turned out to be incredibly convenient in a wierd sort of way… but I imagine that Julian will end up posting about that himself (I know he is writing a response as well). Now, I hope I haven’t really bored anyone… * < The Scorpion > * Serendipity favors the prepared mind and * * Christopher P. Stone * -Noretta Koertge *
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> Hi, I’m considering getting my tongue pierced. The problem is I have >to compete in bicycle races every weekend. This weekend is a stage >race. Will the swelling affect performance and/or breathing during times >of *hard* physical exertion? How soon can solid food be eaten after the >pierce is done? Does it depend on the person? If I do get it done the >race would be two days later. I know I can change my diet to liquid >concentrated carbohydrates to recover for the next day. My main fear is >with the swelling. Thank you in advance.
1.) The swelling will not affect breathing. Not even during *hard* physical exertion. 2.) Especially during the early stages of healing, you need to clean the pierce very shortly after eating to keep it from getting infected. This is not such a problem once it is healed. 3.) You can eat solid foods as soon as you are comfortable with it. Personally, I am on my second tongue pierce (the first one left becuase of illness and swelling, in combination with other related problems) I never really stopped eating solid foods this time. I just didn’t feel like giving them up. So I didn’t. 4.) I seriously doubt that it will affect performance on the bike. It hasn’t affected my performance, anyway (what little there ever was…) –scott
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>>My Hubby, Julian, and I have a SM relationship as an extension of our >emotional/sexual bond. I had a fairly heavy scene planned for the week >You guys got married already?!?!? >I thought that you just met a few months ago? >When did this happen? >Congrats, anyway…
Oh yes, they are very married…. If anybody hit me as hard as they hit each other, they’d damn well BETTER be married to me, ’cause you can be sure they wouldn’t get away with it otherwise… Chris
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in response to my Hubby’s post relating how our tongue piercings were so debilitating that we had to postpone (until last weekend) a heavy SM scene we’d planned. jesster picks up on The Scorpion’s remark >My Hubby, Julian, and I have a SM relationship as an extension of our >emotional/sexual bond. I had a fairly heavy scene planned for the week >we were together after his birthday (he lives 600 miles away), but we had >Aardvark pierce our tongues the 2nd day out, and we were laid up for a while. >I tend to heal very fast, but it was still 4 days before the swelling went >down. Julian’s swelled more like 9 or 10 days. What we both noticed that >this piercing is the most EXHAUSTING of any of them. I haven’t come up >with a reasonable explination. It just felt like I had the flu for a couple >of days. Needless to say- no SM scene for us that week! (Which is why >the scene this past week ended up lasting 3 days… all that repressed >energy!).
with the remark: >You guys got married already?!?!? >I thought that you just met a few months ago? >When did this happen? >Congrats, anyway… >-Jesster >(or was that a figure of speech?)
Bering the Nessibitionist I have been accused of being, and being so madly in love that I can do nothing but talk about the Scorpion to any and everybody, I just can’t resist responding to jesster’s queery [pun intended]: No, it is a figure of speech: We are married – in the heart, which not only is true marriage but the only one available to us. [Catholic that I am, I cannot resist noting that the Church long has taught that marriage is the one sacrament performed by the two recipients themselves and has ruled that when a priest is unavailable they may do it by themselves - and for gays priests are not available so we can do it ourselves!] It happened last week. > already?!?!? >I thought that you just met a few months ago?
That’s right. We met by my responding to a post of The Scorpion’s on r.a.b in the ""PA Doubts" thread. The Scorpion had related a story about a professor at his school seeing his PA and getting squicked and moving to a different urinal. He also related he had the only pierced cock at the school. I responded to his post on December 22 with >If I were on campus, there would be two of us. And if I were the prof. >I wouldn’t have just moved to the farther stall, I’d have interposed >my mouth between your cock and the trough. And when I’d drunk your >stream I’d have sucked your hose. And then I’d have tried to make you >use your tongue and teeth on my PA and ampallang.
The Scorpion’s immediate response was to correspond directly by e-mail saying >*SIGH* >When was the last time I was propositioned so on the net? >…. Who are you anyway … and why do you insist on posting anon?
I delurked to him immediately and then began a massive e-mail cross- seduction. By December 31 the hard-copy stack of e-mail correspondece MEASURED 1/2" thick. (After Christmas we were sending about 25 pages of e-mail daily each way! Basically we did nothing then but read and compose e-mail to each other.) We each knew – and related in our correspondence that we were falling deeply in love. Would the reality conform to the virtual reality of e-mail. Finally with trepidation Scorpion phoned me late New Years eve. By the time we had hung up the next moring we had talked for nine hours. We had confirmed as well we could the conformity of auditory reality to our virtual reality expectations, thoiugh neither of us know what the other looked like other than verbal descriptions that included the 34 year age differential. The flurry of e-mail was joined by the transfer of photos (some electronic) and nightly phone calls in which we cuddled as well we could, shared dreams, and made our plans to get together for the first time.Thursday January 20 I flew to Indianapolis where The Scorpion met me in boots, leather jacket, Golden-Shower Association tee shirt with the Rex image (which I’d sent and also was wearing -appropriate given the initial post that brought us together) and a large septum ring showing. I was dressed in tight white levis, faggy boots, and the same tee-shirt – an outfit he’d hinted he’d like me in. We met, stared, and then went to the serious business of sucking face and hugging and groping while waiting for my baggage. We drove in sub-zero weather in an underheated funky pickup the Scorpion drives making good use of the hour plus drive to Terre Haute to acquaint our eyes, hands, and mouths with each other’s cock and nipple piercings That was the beginning of 8 days in which we spent all but a few hours in bed together, and had a couple of SM scenes. (As the Scorpion related in the post jesster responded to – thereby subjecting you all to this r.a.b romance novel – from the beginning the core of our attraction was piercing and the desire for a satisfying recriprocal SM relationship. Both of us had had long-term relations with nonn-SMers and non-r.a.b-ers -me 20 years and The Scorpion 7 years – and we both know that any next relationship had to integrate SM and deep, caring love for each other. So we tested it there in that Rose-Hulman Institue of Technology dorm!) Since then The Scorpion have had three subsequent visits together – totalling 35 days togeter since then. Plus many phone calls and nightly talks on the Internet via Vaxphone and Talk. We have accumulated 3.5" of e-mail hard-copy as well, and have grown deeper in our commitment. By February 28 we were deeply enough committed to celebrate our engagement with having Ardvark pierce our tongues. And last week we’d fully explored the final compatibilities (the Heavy SM ones) to know we need to be together forever. And we married ourselves. When school ends forthe Scorpion in late May he will come here to Princeton, and we will spend the summer togerther – first here and later at our (no longer "my") farm in the Shenandoah Valley (about 32 miles from Ardvark’s place.) We will again be long-distance in the fall, but I will be on leave and with The Scoprion the first 9 months of 1995, so we again will live together – this time in Indiana. So, jesster and others who are curious: That’s the story of our head-over- heels electronic network tumble into romance, commitment, and now marriage. WE have pronounced ourselves "Husband & Husband" and so the Scorpion did not sppek figuratively, jesster. Julian Hurt Now that it is denied them, people realize how romantic promiscuity was. Gay life without the sex is a theme park. -Andrew Holleran Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.
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>in response to my Hubby’s post relating how our tongue piercings >were so debilitating that we had to postpone (until last weekend) >a heavy SM scene we’d planned. jesster picks up on The Scorpion’s >remark
<lots of detail removed for brevity> Some may feel that these posts are interesting, but then again others may not. I feel that this post should have been sent via private email, as I have no interest in these detailed private arrangements. Joe DeRosa
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[DELETED: Yet another tale of the meeting and wooing of Julian and The Scorpion] Enough, eh? I already feel far more intimate with you two than I’d EVER wanted… I can appreciate (and appreciate and appreciate…) the fact that you two are deeply in love, etc etc etc, as I’ve now heard it broadcast publicly FAR too many times here on R.A.B. Now, couldn’t you keep the rest of it (like your tome to Jesster) in private email? I dread trying to resubscribe to A.S.B. these days… –Gentle Moose
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One of the most beautiful and romantic stories I’ve seen in a long time. (And I’m not even into S&M. Well, as far as I know.) I’m speechless… — ‘90 Bianchi Backstreet ’82 Suzuki GS850GL Irony is the spice of life. "The revolution will not be televised."
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>Some may feel that these posts are interesting, but then again others may not. >I feel that this post should have been sent via private email, as I have >no interest in these detailed private arrangements. >Joe DeRosa
For some others, however, it was the greatest romance we had heard in a long, very cynical time. Thank you both, Julian and Scorpion, for all of the smiles. -tyt Body like a sewing kit, sex drive like a cauliflower.
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>Some may feel that these posts are interesting, but then again others may not. >I feel that this post should have been sent via private email, as I have >no interest in these detailed private arrangements.
For the record, I find the Scorpion/Julian stories highly entertaining. John
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and me >You guys got married already?!?!? >I thought that you just met a few months ago? >When did this happen? >Congrats, anyway…
be with us to celebrate our becoming married right after we’d had a 3-day intense but private "celebration" wrote >Oh yes, they are very married…. >If anybody hit me as hard as they hit each other, they’d damn well >BETTER be married to me, ’cause you can be sure they wouldn’t get >away with it otherwise…
Aw, Chris honney, theose were just love taps from The Scorpion. 
Seriously, deep mauve fortnightly bruises on the back make for an interesting, albeit temporary, "back piece" – more abstract than figurative. And the Scorpion certainly tattooed it onto my skin. (hee hee). Hey, lani, maybe these are the two-week temporary tattoos somebody was looking for a while back. Better add a new section on whip temporary tattoos to the FAQ. …… Hmmm. …. Since they were caused by the sting of The Scorpion, maybe it belongs in Ardvark’s piercing FAQ instead. (giggle) Julian Hurt (who is still giddy from what the Scorpion Done to him on his wedding nights) Now that it is denied them, people realize how romantic promiscuity was. Gay life without the sex is a theme park. -Andrew Holleran Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.
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>For the record, I find the Scorpion/Julian stories highly >entertaining.
Not to mention romantic. (And yes, I do mean that seriously…) — Emily
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: >For the record, I find the Scorpion/Julian stories highly : >entertaining. : Not to mention romantic. (And yes, I do mean that seriously…) : — Emily Add my thumbs up, if this is becoming a poll…. Colleen
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: Hi, I’m considering getting my tongue pierced. The problem is I have : to compete in bicycle races every weekend. This weekend is a stage : race. Will the swelling affect performance and/or breathing during times : of *hard* physical exertion? How soon can solid food be eaten after the : pierce is done? Does it depend on the person? If I do get it done the : race would be two days later. I know I can change my diet to liquid : concentrated carbohydrates to recover for the next day. My main fear is : with the swelling. Thank you in advance. : Craig I was able to do Capoeira (physically vigorous activity I assure you ) right after I got mine pierced, but you should be careful allthose post piercing endorphins and this flying around your bloodstream may upset yopur balance.