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RCCL moving from Manhattan to Bayonne
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Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. sue
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> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > sue
This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC skyline as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great pleasures of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. Ira J. Scheer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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>Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation >from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer.
Good Grief! Bayonne? (rolling my eyes) Ok, I’ll answer the first inevitable question: Newark is the most convenient airport for cruising out of…Bayonne. Warren remove the drink to email Y
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> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > sue
I read that it will be 3-5 years before the new port is ready to receive RCCL’s ships in Bayonne and that they will remain at the Westside ports till then. Here’s the URL to the site where I read it. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7535176.htm
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here is the press release: Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority (BLRA) Enters Agreement with Royal Caribbean to Create Cruise Port at The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor BAYONNE, N.J., Dec. 19 /PRNewswire/ — The Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority (BLRA) Board of Commissioners voted last night to enter into an agreement with Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. to establish a cruise port at the former Bayonne Military Ocean Terminal (MOTBY). The agreement provides for a long-term lease that will allow Royal Caribbean to develop a cruise port on a portion of the 430-acre peninsula. The cruise port will be located along the north shore just east of the Maritime Industrial District and west of a planned waterfront park that will offer unobstructed views of the Statue of Liberty, lower Manhattan and the Verrazano Bridge. The new facility will serve as a seasonal homeport to two Royal Caribbean International ships, including one of the world’s largest cruise ships, the 3,114-passenger Voyager of the Seas, which makes her New York metro area debut in May 2004. The cruise port will feature a passenger terminal, ship berths, Customs and INS facilities, visitor parking, bus and taxi areas, as well as access to public transportation including ferry service and Light Rail. "We are thrilled that Royal Caribbean discovered what a great place Bayonne is to do business," said Bayonne Mayor Joseph V. Doria, Jr. "This agreement represents the first significant achievement following the BLRA’s announced public-private cooperative venture with Fidelco Bayonne Realty and one of many exciting announcements we expect to make in the coming year." According to BLRA Chairman Howard Fitch, "This was truly a team effort. Our congratulations go to the BLRA staff and to our partners at Fidelco Bayonne Realty whose professional expertise helped make this deal happen." Marc E. Berson, a principal of Fidelco Bayonne Realty, said this deal is "just the beginning" of what is possible when the public and private sector work together as true partners. "Our public-private partnership is already working the way we had envisioned it. We look forward to building on this success in the months ahead." "We are extremely pleased to be working with the BLRA and to be able to cement our presence in the market at such an ideal location, both for our expanded operations and the convenience of our guests," said Adam Goldstein, executive vice president, Royal Caribbean. The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor is a man-made peninsula that extends two miles into Upper New York Harbor. "Our agreement with Royal Caribbean will help Bayonne move forward in achieving the goal of replacing jobs lost — as a result of the closure of the base," said Maria Karczewski, BLRA Commissioner and City Council member. "There has already been tremendous progress at The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor," said Vincent Lo Re, Jr., BLRA Commissioner and City Council president. "But this agreement with Royal Caribbean is proof positive that we can and will attract high-caliber businesses to The Peninsula." Royal Caribbean will operate out of existing structures for the immediate future. Long-term plans call for construction of a new cruise terminal and supporting facilities. Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. is a global cruise vacation company that operates Royal Caribbean International and Celebrity Cruises, with a combined total of 27 ships in service and two under construction or on firm order. Ships carried goods from the MOTBY terminal for every US military operation from World War II to the Persian Gulf, Somalia and Haiti missions in the 1990s. At its peak, MOTBY employed about 3,000 civilians and US Army personnel and handled more than 1 million tons of cargo each year. The Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority was created in 1998 to redevelop the former military base which today stands as the largest tract of undeveloped land in the New York metropolitan area. Future plans for The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor call for a vibrant mixed-use waterfront development comprised of residential, light industrial and office space, film studios, a riverwalk and numerous recreational areas with parks and playgrounds. For more information, please contact Jessica Barnes at (201) 451-3444. SOURCE Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority CO: Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority; Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. ST: New Jersey SU: http://www.prnewswire.com Happy Cruisin’ Mark Home Port: Monmouth County,NJ.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their > operation from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the > Voyager and the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in > Manhattan. > sue > I read that it will be 3-5 years before the new port is ready to > receive RCCL’s ships in Bayonne and that they will remain at the > Westside ports till then. Here’s the URL to the site where I read it. > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7535176.htm
Applicable language from the news release: Royal Caribbean will operate out of existing structures for the immediate future. Long-term plans call for construction of a new cruise terminal and supporting facilities. Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. is a global cruise vacation company that operates Royal Caribbean International and Celebrity Cruises, with a combined total of 27 ships in service and two under construction or on firm order.
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I’ll bet there will, but I doubt if the prices will be much better that the $24 per day NYC price. I would take a guess at around $18 to $20 per day. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Probably too early to answer this question, but I’ll ask it anyway. In June > 2004, will there be long-term parking there ? > Ira J. Scheer > Bayown would be a great spot !!! The piers in NYC are very old and out of > date > !!! when you get 3 to 5 mager ships in it can take up to an hour and a > half to
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> there’s a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with >ferry service to the city
One may call that a very short cruise … Be seeing you In the Village Number 6
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> > there’s a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with >ferry service to the city > One may call that a very short cruise …
Or "tendering". –Tom
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>> One may call that a very short cruise … >Or "tendering".
That ferry is not much of a problem … but that high speed South Amboy one screws up a perfect fluke drift everytime … Be seeing you In the Village Number 6
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> >> One may call that a very short cruise … >Or "tendering". > That ferry is not much of a problem … but that high speed South Amboy one > screws up a perfect fluke drift everytime …
Not for the fluke. –Tom
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It’s not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we’re right opposite where the Twin Towers stood. –Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > sue > This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC skyline > as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of > lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the > skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great pleasures > of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. > Ira J. Scheer
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If you’ve been caught in 2 hours worth of traffic to go the last 3 blocks to get to the ships in Manhattan… it won’t be a bad idea to spread out the ships (and traffic) some. While I love sailing out of Manhattan… I hate getting to the ship in Manhattan. –Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation >from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. > Good Grief! Bayonne? (rolling my eyes) > Ok, I’ll answer the first inevitable question: Newark is the most convenient > airport for cruising out of…Bayonne. > Warren > remove the drink to email Y
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Aren’t they adding train service to the Bayonne area shortly connecting to northern Jersey? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It’s not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which > is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we’re right opposite where > the Twin Towers stood. > –Tom > > Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > > sue > This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC skyline > as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of > lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the > skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great pleasures > of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. > Ira J. Scheer
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation >from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and >the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. >sue > I read that it will be 3-5 years before the new port is ready to > receive RCCL’s ships in Bayonne and that they will remain at the > Westside ports till then. Here’s the URL to the site where I read it. > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7535176.htm
It will be that long before their new terminal is ready, but they will start cruising from Bayonne next summer. Here is a quote from the article posted by MJDEEG in this thread. Royal Caribbean will operate out of existing structures for the immediate future. Long-term plans call for construction of a new cruise terminal and supporting facilities. sue
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> If you’ve been caught in 2 hours worth of traffic to go the last 3 > blocks to get to the ships in Manhattan… it won’t be a bad idea to > spread out the ships (and traffic) some. > While I love sailing out of Manhattan… I hate getting to the ship in > Manhattan.
Tom, I have to agree with you, the traffic in NY around the pier is horrible. Next time we are ready to sail to Bermuda, I will "consider" the Nordic Empress so we don’t have to go into Manhattan. sue
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The article said that light rail, connecting with Amtrak, and therefore also Newark Airport, was already there in place. –Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Aren’t they adding train service to the Bayonne area shortly connecting to > northern Jersey? > It’s not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which > is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we’re right opposite where > the Twin Towers stood. > –Tom > > > Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their > operation > > > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > > > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > > > sue > > This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC > skyline > > as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of > > lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the > > skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great > pleasures > > of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. > > Ira J. Scheer
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Actually, the light rail will connect you with PATH trains. You then have to go to Newark Penn Station, and again, change trains to get on a NJ Transit train or Amtrak train to get to the airport. You may also take the light rail to Hoboken terminal, board a NJ Transit train to the new Secaucus Transfer Station, and again, change trains to either a NJT train or Amtrak train to the airport. Once at the airport, you have to schlep up the escalator with your luggage, and catch the monorail to your terminal. I don’t think there is anymore of a direct rail route than those two options, although I haven’t worked in N. Jersey for a while now. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The article said that light rail, connecting with Amtrak, and therefore >also Newark Airport, was already there in place. >–Tom > Aren’t they adding train service to the Bayonne area shortly connecting to > northern Jersey? > > It’s not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which > > is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we’re right opposite where > > the Twin Towers stood. > > –Tom > > > > Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their > operation > > > > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > > > > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > > > > sue > > > This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC > skyline > > > as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of > > > lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the > > > skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great > pleasures > > > of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. > > > Ira J. Scheer
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Well, being from Long Island, there is no way I would truck over to Bayonne instead of hoping a bermuda cruise from manhattan. JJ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > sue
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Bayown would be a great spot !!! The piers in NYC are very old and out of date !!! when you get 3 to 5 mager ships in it can take up to an hour and a half to get to the pier from 11 ave !!! The city piers are not very good for the new magers ships !! Even from NYC it will be earyer to get to the piers in Bayown then in NYC You take the Path to Hoboken then talk the light rail to Bayown !!And it’s about a 15 to 20 min. ride from Newark . And the Peninsula is going to be a really great plase when it’s done . You get a really great view of NYC & the port from there . And driving to the new port in Bayown will be so much easyer then having to go in to the city !!The new terminal is going to be for any a away better then the one in the city !!! The like everything eles is just to crowed !!! When people ask where to stay when going on a cruise from NYC i tell them to stay in Weehawken there’s a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with ferry service to the city a few blocks from the piers,at half of what it cost’s in the city !! And alot of people from this and other BB’s have thanked me for giving them this info.Also there is going to be a new Hotel in Hoboken on the water front next to the Path . Then you could take the Path or ferry in to the city !! NYC is a great place to visit but i would never like to stay there !!! Everything in the city is very over priced !!! That’s why the waterfront in NJ is growing so big . Just look at the Jersay side the next time you take a cruise out of NYC !! Oh by the way when we go on the Dawn in august we will be taking the ferry to the ship !! When we get of the ship we will be home in 20 mi !!
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> I don’t think there is anymore of a direct >rail route than those two options, although I haven’t worked in N. >Jersey for a while now.
Hi Everyone, I am sure the cruise lines will be providing transfers to the airport(s). Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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Probably too early to answer this question, but I’ll ask it anyway. In June 2004, will there be long-term parking there ? Ira J. Scheer
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bayown would be a great spot !!! The piers in NYC are very old and out of date > !!! when you get 3 to 5 mager ships in it can take up to an hour and a half to
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Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. sue
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> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > sue
This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC skyline as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great pleasures of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. Ira J. Scheer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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>Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation >from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer.
Good Grief! Bayonne? (rolling my eyes) Ok, I’ll answer the first inevitable question: Newark is the most convenient airport for cruising out of…Bayonne. Warren remove the drink to email Y
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> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > sue
I read that it will be 3-5 years before the new port is ready to receive RCCL’s ships in Bayonne and that they will remain at the Westside ports till then. Here’s the URL to the site where I read it. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7535176.htm
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here is the press release: Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority (BLRA) Enters Agreement with Royal Caribbean to Create Cruise Port at The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor BAYONNE, N.J., Dec. 19 /PRNewswire/ — The Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority (BLRA) Board of Commissioners voted last night to enter into an agreement with Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. to establish a cruise port at the former Bayonne Military Ocean Terminal (MOTBY). The agreement provides for a long-term lease that will allow Royal Caribbean to develop a cruise port on a portion of the 430-acre peninsula. The cruise port will be located along the north shore just east of the Maritime Industrial District and west of a planned waterfront park that will offer unobstructed views of the Statue of Liberty, lower Manhattan and the Verrazano Bridge. The new facility will serve as a seasonal homeport to two Royal Caribbean International ships, including one of the world’s largest cruise ships, the 3,114-passenger Voyager of the Seas, which makes her New York metro area debut in May 2004. The cruise port will feature a passenger terminal, ship berths, Customs and INS facilities, visitor parking, bus and taxi areas, as well as access to public transportation including ferry service and Light Rail. "We are thrilled that Royal Caribbean discovered what a great place Bayonne is to do business," said Bayonne Mayor Joseph V. Doria, Jr. "This agreement represents the first significant achievement following the BLRA’s announced public-private cooperative venture with Fidelco Bayonne Realty and one of many exciting announcements we expect to make in the coming year." According to BLRA Chairman Howard Fitch, "This was truly a team effort. Our congratulations go to the BLRA staff and to our partners at Fidelco Bayonne Realty whose professional expertise helped make this deal happen." Marc E. Berson, a principal of Fidelco Bayonne Realty, said this deal is "just the beginning" of what is possible when the public and private sector work together as true partners. "Our public-private partnership is already working the way we had envisioned it. We look forward to building on this success in the months ahead." "We are extremely pleased to be working with the BLRA and to be able to cement our presence in the market at such an ideal location, both for our expanded operations and the convenience of our guests," said Adam Goldstein, executive vice president, Royal Caribbean. The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor is a man-made peninsula that extends two miles into Upper New York Harbor. "Our agreement with Royal Caribbean will help Bayonne move forward in achieving the goal of replacing jobs lost — as a result of the closure of the base," said Maria Karczewski, BLRA Commissioner and City Council member. "There has already been tremendous progress at The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor," said Vincent Lo Re, Jr., BLRA Commissioner and City Council president. "But this agreement with Royal Caribbean is proof positive that we can and will attract high-caliber businesses to The Peninsula." Royal Caribbean will operate out of existing structures for the immediate future. Long-term plans call for construction of a new cruise terminal and supporting facilities. Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. is a global cruise vacation company that operates Royal Caribbean International and Celebrity Cruises, with a combined total of 27 ships in service and two under construction or on firm order. Ships carried goods from the MOTBY terminal for every US military operation from World War II to the Persian Gulf, Somalia and Haiti missions in the 1990s. At its peak, MOTBY employed about 3,000 civilians and US Army personnel and handled more than 1 million tons of cargo each year. The Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority was created in 1998 to redevelop the former military base which today stands as the largest tract of undeveloped land in the New York metropolitan area. Future plans for The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor call for a vibrant mixed-use waterfront development comprised of residential, light industrial and office space, film studios, a riverwalk and numerous recreational areas with parks and playgrounds. For more information, please contact Jessica Barnes at (201) 451-3444. SOURCE Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority CO: Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority; Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. ST: New Jersey SU: http://www.prnewswire.com Happy Cruisin’ Mark Home Port: Monmouth County,NJ.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their > operation from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the > Voyager and the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in > Manhattan. > sue > I read that it will be 3-5 years before the new port is ready to > receive RCCL’s ships in Bayonne and that they will remain at the > Westside ports till then. Here’s the URL to the site where I read it. > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7535176.htm
Applicable language from the news release: Royal Caribbean will operate out of existing structures for the immediate future. Long-term plans call for construction of a new cruise terminal and supporting facilities. Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. is a global cruise vacation company that operates Royal Caribbean International and Celebrity Cruises, with a combined total of 27 ships in service and two under construction or on firm order.
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It’s not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we’re right opposite where the Twin Towers stood. –Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > sue > This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC skyline > as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of > lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the > skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great pleasures > of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. > Ira J. Scheer
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If you’ve been caught in 2 hours worth of traffic to go the last 3 blocks to get to the ships in Manhattan… it won’t be a bad idea to spread out the ships (and traffic) some. While I love sailing out of Manhattan… I hate getting to the ship in Manhattan. –Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation >from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. > Good Grief! Bayonne? (rolling my eyes) > Ok, I’ll answer the first inevitable question: Newark is the most convenient > airport for cruising out of…Bayonne. > Warren > remove the drink to email Y
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Aren’t they adding train service to the Bayonne area shortly connecting to northern Jersey? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It’s not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which > is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we’re right opposite where > the Twin Towers stood. > –Tom > > Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > > sue > This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC skyline > as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of > lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the > skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great pleasures > of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. > Ira J. Scheer
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation >from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and >the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. >sue > I read that it will be 3-5 years before the new port is ready to > receive RCCL’s ships in Bayonne and that they will remain at the > Westside ports till then. Here’s the URL to the site where I read it. > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7535176.htm
It will be that long before their new terminal is ready, but they will start cruising from Bayonne next summer. Here is a quote from the article posted by MJDEEG in this thread. Royal Caribbean will operate out of existing structures for the immediate future. Long-term plans call for construction of a new cruise terminal and supporting facilities. sue
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> If you’ve been caught in 2 hours worth of traffic to go the last 3 > blocks to get to the ships in Manhattan… it won’t be a bad idea to > spread out the ships (and traffic) some. > While I love sailing out of Manhattan… I hate getting to the ship in > Manhattan.
Tom, I have to agree with you, the traffic in NY around the pier is horrible. Next time we are ready to sail to Bermuda, I will "consider" the Nordic Empress so we don’t have to go into Manhattan. sue
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The article said that light rail, connecting with Amtrak, and therefore also Newark Airport, was already there in place. –Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Aren’t they adding train service to the Bayonne area shortly connecting to > northern Jersey? > It’s not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which > is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we’re right opposite where > the Twin Towers stood. > –Tom > > > Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their > operation > > > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > > > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > > > sue > > This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC > skyline > > as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of > > lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the > > skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great > pleasures > > of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. > > Ira J. Scheer
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Actually, the light rail will connect you with PATH trains. You then have to go to Newark Penn Station, and again, change trains to get on a NJ Transit train or Amtrak train to get to the airport. You may also take the light rail to Hoboken terminal, board a NJ Transit train to the new Secaucus Transfer Station, and again, change trains to either a NJT train or Amtrak train to the airport. Once at the airport, you have to schlep up the escalator with your luggage, and catch the monorail to your terminal. I don’t think there is anymore of a direct rail route than those two options, although I haven’t worked in N. Jersey for a while now. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The article said that light rail, connecting with Amtrak, and therefore >also Newark Airport, was already there in place. >–Tom > Aren’t they adding train service to the Bayonne area shortly connecting to > northern Jersey? > > It’s not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which > > is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we’re right opposite where > > the Twin Towers stood. > > –Tom > > > > Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their > operation > > > > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > > > > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > > > > sue > > > This is really sad, since it means we don’t get the view of the NYC > skyline > > > as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of > > > lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the > > > skyline on Voyager next summer – that was always one of the great > pleasures > > > of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper. > > > Ira J. Scheer
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Well, being from Long Island, there is no way I would truck over to Bayonne instead of hoping a bermuda cruise from manhattan. JJ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation > from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and > the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan. > sue
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Bayown would be a great spot !!! The piers in NYC are very old and out of date !!! when you get 3 to 5 mager ships in it can take up to an hour and a half to get to the pier from 11 ave !!! The city piers are not very good for the new magers ships !! Even from NYC it will be earyer to get to the piers in Bayown then in NYC You take the Path to Hoboken then talk the light rail to Bayown !!And it’s about a 15 to 20 min. ride from Newark . And the Peninsula is going to be a really great plase when it’s done . You get a really great view of NYC & the port from there . And driving to the new port in Bayown will be so much easyer then having to go in to the city !!The new terminal is going to be for any a away better then the one in the city !!! The like everything eles is just to crowed !!! When people ask where to stay when going on a cruise from NYC i tell them to stay in Weehawken there’s a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with ferry service to the city a few blocks from the piers,at half of what it cost’s in the city !! And alot of people from this and other BB’s have thanked me for giving them this info.Also there is going to be a new Hotel in Hoboken on the water front next to the Path . Then you could take the Path or ferry in to the city !! NYC is a great place to visit but i would never like to stay there !!! Everything in the city is very over priced !!! That’s why the waterfront in NJ is growing so big . Just look at the Jersay side the next time you take a cruise out of NYC !! Oh by the way when we go on the Dawn in august we will be taking the ferry to the ship !! When we get of the ship we will be home in 20 mi !!
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> I don’t think there is anymore of a direct >rail route than those two options, although I haven’t worked in N. >Jersey for a while now.
Hi Everyone, I am sure the cruise lines will be providing transfers to the airport(s). Best regards, Ray LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905 http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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Probably too early to answer this question, but I’ll ask it anyway. In June 2004, will there be long-term parking there ? Ira J. Scheer
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I’ll bet there will, but I doubt if the prices will be much better that the $24 per day NYC price. I would take a guess at around $18 to $20 per day. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Probably too early to answer this question, but I’ll ask it anyway. In June > 2004, will there be long-term parking there ? > Ira J. Scheer > Bayown would be a great spot !!! The piers in NYC are very old and out of > date > !!! when you get 3 to 5 mager ships in it can take up to an hour and a > half to
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> there’s a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with >ferry service to the city
One may call that a very short cruise … Be seeing you In the Village Number 6
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> > there’s a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with >ferry service to the city > One may call that a very short cruise …
Or "tendering". –Tom
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>> One may call that a very short cruise … >Or "tendering".
That ferry is not much of a problem … but that high speed South Amboy one screws up a perfect fluke drift everytime … Be seeing you In the Village Number 6
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> >> One may call that a very short cruise … >Or "tendering". > That ferry is not much of a problem … but that high speed South Amboy one > screws up a perfect fluke drift everytime …
Not for the fluke. –Tom