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Did you compare the fees of a landscape architect against a landscaper with a design service?  Could you share your experience? To me a landscape architect designs and let you execute the plan yourself or subcontract the work to a landscaper, an architect charges a design fee which I understand can run into the thousands. There are also landscapers who would do design, charge you a fee for the design, but apply the fee towards the work and materials.  I’ve seen quotes around $700-$2000 for a simple plan. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >We hired a landscape architect to draw up a plan, and we are slowly >implementing it ourselves.  It did give us a good starting point, and he >certainly knew much more than we would have if we tried the whole thing >ourselves. >Most of the companies had a fee for the plan – whether you contracted with >them or not. >–

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To show you what a pinheaded moron you are, I’ve clipped the message I replied to: >Has anyone ever done this?:> >Have a couple landscaping services come out to draw up a plan and bid, >then hire someone else to execute their plan?  It just seems like it >would be so easy to do.

That you fathead is scamming someone.  Nowhere does he mention paying for any service — just the opposite.  He wants something for nothing.  I was warning what can happen when that is done.  You have proven your signiture beyond a shadow of a doubt. Steve p.s. since we have a copywrite on all plans, the customer would be the ones in for the massive lawsuit (as has already happened) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->We do the exact same thing with our swimming pool plans.  We don’t charge to >draw the plans and people always use us to get a nice plan and have a >cheaper company build it. >I always include some "problems" so if they build it to the plan, things >don’t work out to well.  If they sign with us,  I know what to change when >I’m doing the working drawings… >Just be sure what you’re getting into when you  try to scam someone.  He who >laughs last laughs hardest sometimes. >who said anything about scamming anyone? >I said pay for someone to draw up plans. >you could be setting yourself up for a massive lawsuit. >fortunately I’ve been lucky enough never to have to run into scum like >you. >Wise men talk because they have something to say. >Fools talk because they have to say something. >Plato

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We do the exact same thing with our swimming pool plans.  We don’t charge to draw the plans and people always use us to get a nice plan and have a cheaper company build it. I always include some "problems" so if they build it to the plan, things don’t work out to well.  If they sign with us,  I know what to change when I’m doing the working drawings… Just be sure what you’re getting into when you  try to scam someone.  He who laughs last laughs hardest sometimes.

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Definately possible but does seem hugely unethical doesn’t it.   Remember, if a professional is good you will get a little bit from him on the plans, but their future input is probably worth a lot more. When my dad was building houses, people would come and sit down with him and get a few ideas from him.  Ideas that would invariably save them hundreds of dollars.  Then they would take them to a cheaper builder.  What they didn’t realize that other ideas that he usually produced when building a house would have increased their house value by thousands of dollars (I know it did in the house he is building for us). I’d do it the fair way and pay them for the plan. Sanjay Nasta www.builtonline.com The Homebuilder’s Resource

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Has anyone ever done this?: Have a couple landscaping services come out to draw up a plan and bid, then hire someone else to execute their plan?  It just seems like it would be so easy to do.

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>Has anyone ever done this?: >Have a couple landscaping services come out to draw up a plan and bid, >then hire someone else to execute their plan?  It just seems like it >would be so easy to do.

We hired a landscape architect to draw up a plan, and we are slowly implementing it ourselves.  It did give us a good starting point, and he certainly knew much more than we would have if we tried the whole thing ourselves. Most of the companies had a fee for the plan – whether you contracted with them or not. — Dave Clark Opinions expressed are my own. Any resemblance to other opinions, living or dead, are purely coincidental. Iran this threw my spell check her an it toll me it was all write.

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> X-no-archive: yes > >Has anyone ever done this?: > >Have a couple landscaping services come out to draw up a plan and bid, > >then hire someone else to execute their plan?  It just seems like it > >would be so easy to do. > even more cost effective is to hire them to devise a landscape plan, > buy the plans and execute it yourself, I saved thousands doing it > myself.

I guess thats fine to take them elsewhere if you pay for the plans.   We have called a landscaper to draw-up our plans but we have been up-front with him that we want to do the work ourself. His wife mentioned that sometimes he will go and draw the plans for someone or some business then they take those plans to some other landscaper and have them do the work.  I got the impression that this seemed to irritate him. It seems to me that if you like what a landscaper has drawn up for you then he/she has the knowledge, experience, and has a good feel for your landscaping tastes. So why not hire him/her unless their bid is extremely high or you plan to do the work yourself.

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