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>>>Vitamist -Oral Spray Vitamins<<<
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> Charles T. JonesAny one that has tried this form of vitamins knows >it’s a real lie…the > mist you spray into your mouth actually turns immediately into liquid > that join your saliva down into your stomach.It DOES NOT absorb into > your moth lining. Don’t be that stupid beleiving that only 10% of a pill > would actually enter your bloodstreem. If this was the case – why would > people take orally any medicine at all?
Plus the cost of this stuff is incredible! Turns out to be like thousands of dollars per pound for vitamin C, which absorbs quite nicely through the digestive tract. So don’t forget the immortal words of PT Barnum – there’s a sucker born every minute (or something like that) — Richard Grossman, Lic.Ac., O.M.D., Ph.D. Voice Mail – (310) 358-6125 http://acudoc.com/acudoc
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You are quite wrong about taking medicine or vitamins orally. Look in the Physician’s Desk Reference if you do not believe that the absorption rate for a pill is only 10 to 15% while oral sprays are 90 to 95%. I have had a number of doctors describe to me how oral sprays work – and they do work.
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Check the Physician’ Desk Reference. Most people take vitamin pills because that is all that has been available. They are cheap to make and the storage life is forever.
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Check the Physician’s Desk Reference if you do not believe that you only get 10 to 15% absorption rate with a pill compared to 90 to 95% for an Oral Spray. The idea is not to swallow the spray but to move it around in your mouth until it is absorbed. It helps if you get your mouth as dry as possible prior to spraying your vitamins. Doctors have known about the benefits of oral absorption for years.
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First of all Steve Dyer, I was just making a comment. I did not say anything about a product or products. You have no reason to tell me what to answer to or what to follow up on. If you don’t like it then shove it you know where.
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How many minutes are vitamin pills supposed to disolve in Steve? Is it 1, 2, 3, or hours? How many are a few minutes? You seem to know so much. Are you a doctor?
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>Check the Physician’s Desk Reference if you do not believe that you only >get 10 to 15% absorption rate with a pill compared to 90 to 95% for an >Oral Spray. First of all, your articles are just poorly disguised ads for this crap you’re trying to sell. DON’T POST ADS TO THIS NEWSGROUP. If you want to hustle this stuff, take it to alt.forsale.nutrition, where you can say anything you like. You keep invoking the PDR in the hope of misleading people into thinking that it is somehow authoritative. It’s not. The PDR is an *advertising* medium. A private company (Medical Resources) sells space in each year’s PDR. Most of the entries (at least for the original PDR) just contain the FDA-approved text of the package insert which appears with each prescription drug. However, when a product doesn’t have an FDA-approved package insert (such as you might see with OTC vitamin products), it can be just about anything the manufacturer wants to place there, including fraudulent nonsense such as you’re trying to pass off here. Pills and capsules are required to dissolve within a few minutes of being placed in water. People who are is worried about how soon their vitamins dissolve should try a simple experiment: place the tablet in a glass of water. You’ll see that it’s a very rare vitamin pill which doesn’t dissolve rapidly. Vitamin products which are labelled with the USP legend (as in "Vitamin C, 1000mg, USP") reflect the fact that they’re formulated according to standards set by the United States Pharmacopoeia, which includes standards for dissolution. >The idea is not to swallow the spray but to move it around in your mouth >until it is absorbed. It helps if you get your mouth as dry as possible >prior to spraying your vitamins. Doctors have known about the benefits of >oral absorption for years. There are a very few drugs which are absorbed through the oral mucosa, and even fewer which *need* to be absorbed in that manner (usually small lipid-soluble drugs which would otherwise be destroyed by the liver after being absorbed from the gut: nitroglycerin, nicotine in nicotine chewing gum, etc.) There is no rational basis for administering vitamins or minerals by this route. And to pretend that there is (or that "doctors" "know" about this with regards to vitamins) is nothing but a lie. — Steve Dyer
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > >The idea is not to swallow the spray but to move it around in your mouth > >until it is absorbed. It helps if you get your mouth as dry as possible > >prior to spraying your vitamins. Doctors have known about the benefits of > >oral absorption for years. > There are a very few drugs which are absorbed through the oral mucosa, and > even fewer which *need* to be absorbed in that manner (usually small > lipid-soluble drugs which would otherwise be destroyed by the liver > after being absorbed from the gut: nitroglycerin, nicotine in nicotine > chewing gum, etc.) There is no rational basis for administering > vitamins or minerals by this route. And to pretend that there is > (or that "doctors" "know" about this with regards to vitamins) is > nothing but a lie.
And I thought he was talking "tongue-in-cheek," but see that you’ve shown he was talking "foot-in-dry-mouth!"
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John Obrien states <One months supply of Vitamist(as I recall) consists of 2 sprays per day>. Actually the daily dosage is 2 sprays 4 times a day. Always remember, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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John Obrien states <about a 75% improvement over an oral dosage.> There is actually a 9 times increase from 10% to 90%. That’s like pulling into a gas station and having a choice of buying gas that gets you 10 miles to a gallon or purchasing gas that gets you 90 miles to the gallon. It is up to the consumer to decide. Just remember, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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Steve Dyer writes <First of all, your articles are just poorly disguised ads for this crap you are trying to sell.> Steve, I am not trying to sell anything. I am just following up on the crap that you put out on the forum. You should have just let the first mention of the product alone. Rather you decided to be a smart ass and show how intelligent you are by bashing something that you obviously know nothing about. Then I had to be a smart ass and show that you don’t know everything and that I was not going to let your false claims go unanswered. I am not a distributor for this product. However, come September 1, 1996 I will be. I have taken the products since February and they have helped me. I now get up at 6 am every morning and walk 3 to 3 1/2 miles every day. If I feel a little tired during the day all I do is spray Vitamin B-12 and I’m ready to go. Why September and not now? I have two other businesses that I own and operate, a computer consulting firm and a computer software firm. They take up most of my time so I am off loading some of my duties to assistants so that I will be able to concentrate on the new business come September. I have looked at this from a business standpoint, not just the money to be made but the residual income. A residual income that can be used not just for myself and family but to do a lot of other worthwhile things that will benefit others. Steve, we can stop this now if you want. However, in the future it would be best just to tell someone not to post their ads in this forum rather than blasting their product. Someone like me who uses the product may be listening and may not appreciate your uninformed jabs.
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: Check the Physician’s Desk Reference if you do not believe that you only get : 10 to 15% absorption rate with a pill compared to 90 to 95% for an Oral : Spray. So that is only about a 75% improvement over an oral dosage. How can Vita- mist justify about a 2,000% increase in price over the oral dosage? Think I’m crazy or my figures are out of whack. Do the math your self; You can buy 1 Kilogram of Vitamin C for roughly 40$. That is 1000 grams, which in milligrams is 1 million milligrams. (I’m talking crystals, now) One months supply of Vitamist (as I recall) consisted of 2 sprays a day, each spray being about 30 milligrams. Thus 30 x 2 x 30 = 1800 milligrams. So , let s round up and you get 2000 mg/mo for (Isn’t it about $20/mo?) So, my Crystals cost me $40/1000 gram or about .025 cents per gram. V-m cost $10/gram or $10 per gram. I guess I can afford to take larger doses of crystals for a few hundred years till the Vitamist price comes down to real-life. — ,o888b,`?~~~~~ ~~~~~P’,d888o, 8888888P’ ~~~ ~~~ ?8888888 888P’ ~~~ "When all the World recognizes ~~~ `?888 `88 O d~~~ good as good, This in itself ~~~b O 88′ `?._ _.o~~~~~ is Evil." Lao Tsu ~~~~~o._ _.P’
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Acudoc says <Plus the cost of this stuff is incredible! Turns out to be like thousands of dollars per pound of vitamin C> Could you describe how you came up with these figures or is this just more of your Acudoc(what ever that is) bull? Always remember, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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> Charles T. JonesAny one that has tried this form of vitamins knows it’s a real lie…the >mist you spray into your mouth actually turns immediately into liquid >that join your saliva down into your stomach.It DOES NOT absorb into >your moth lining.
If what you say is true, why do heart patients place nitro tablets under the tongue? Is it perhaps because that is the fastest way into the blood to save the patient’s heart? Don’t be that stupid beleiving that only 10% of a pill >would actually enter your bloodstreem. If this was the case – why would >people take orally any medicine at all?
"Stupid is as stupid does"- Forest Gump Actually, many things end up in the toilet almost completely undigested taken in pill form. Pills are a cheap way to manufacture and deliver something in a bottle. Maybe the company that manufactures a pill form has stockholders that expect good profits. I know that there are many ways to have drugs delivered that are better than trying to injest a pill. I thought everybody else knew, too. have a happy day, a.j.
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: The startling fact is that millions of Americans are taking = : vitamin pills that may be doing them little, if any good. : Why? Because many vitamin pills do not dissolve in the = : digestive tract quickly enough to be absorbed. In addition, by the time = I take chewable vitamins. Ha, ha! Oh, wait. You said _Americans._ Never mind.
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> Vitamist
<Snip of a long commercial> Absurd. Richard Grossman, Lic.Ac., O.M.D., Ph.D. Voice Mail – (310) 358-6125 http://acudoc.com/acudoc
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Vitamist > In America today, more than 169 million people take vitamins or > some type of nutritional supplement. > The startling fact is that millions of Americans are taking > vitamin pills that may be doing them little, if any good. > Why? Because many vitamin pills do not dissolve in the > digestive tract quickly enough to be absorbed. In addition, by the time > the digestive process is completed, it is estimated that only a small > percentage ( about 10% ) of the nutrient actually enters the > bloodstream! > Spray nutrients solve the problem! > How does oral absorption work? Pure nutritional molecules are > absorbed into the body through the lining of the mouth. Blood > capillaries are extremely close to the surface in this area. This > highly absorbent tissue allows nutrients to be absorbed into the > bloodstream where they are dispensed throughout the body in seconds. > Another great benefit of spray nutrients is that they eliminate > the