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> >Every summer when I get a tan, my P tends to clear up. It doesn’t appear >to be just the heat, ’cause when I am not out in the sun, it comes back. >What’s up? Do tanning beds help in winter?
I noticed the same thing. The dermatologist gave me $40 tubes of steroids that had no effect, but in the summer I cleared up completely except for where I was covered by a swim suit. So three years ago I dropped the doctor and joined a tanning salon, and everything is cleared up except for the scalp – can’t seem to beat that one.
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Lisa, you are not by yourself in the case that P get whorst in summer. I live in montreal, qu bec and for the past winters, when I went in vacation (where there is no stress play golf and relax) down south, I came back and the same thing all the time. If I get under the sun, it get worst. Marc
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>Every summer when I get a tan, my P tends to clear up. It doesn’t appear >to be just the heat, ’cause when I am not out in the sun, it comes back. >What’s up? Do tanning beds help in winter?
You will get mixed theories on sunbeds. P is personal to a large extent and what works for one does not affect another… The sun beds you have to use are UVA and are designed to BURN your skin whereas UVB TANS your skin. UVA is dangerous and can cause skin cancer and certainly damages your skin. For this reason its use is medically controlled and may include a course nasty drugs which cause nausia and increased skin sensitivity to UV (so they use shorter doses thereby reducing long term risk). A UVB bed may work for you if your skin is so inclined. Don’t spend a fortune on it though. UV causes various changes in your skin but it still seems unclear which changes are affecting P. Melamin is produced, Vitamin D, is manufactured inside your skin cells, Oganisms in the skin may be affected by UV, skin production rate is changed. Whatever!, the effects you observe are completetly typical. I personally believe that our skin was designed to be exposed and bodies were not designed for the psycological and physiologocal stress and chemical attack that we inevitably suffer. We now cover our skin with clothes, hide away in boxes breath lovely pollution, and eat absolute crap! something is bound to give and I’m not surprised that P shows up, I consider my skin to be normal but in the wrong environment. * * * The silence that speaks so much louder than words. *D.Gilmour* * * *
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>Someone help me here because I can’t seem to remember the difference >between UVA light and UVB light. One of these kinds of lights is >found in tanning beds, one from real sunlight. My dermatologist >seemed to feel that the tanning light probably wasn’t very helpful >because it was the wrong kind of light (although, as we all know, P >cures are different for everybody). He suggested I try it, just to be >sure–and, nope, it didn’t help at all.
Both UVA and UVB are found in natural sunlight. I believe most tanning beds have mostly UVA (though you can get the kind with UVB bulbs). I’ve used tanning beds in the past (with UVA) and sometimes it has helped quite a bit (so does being in the sun). >Another thing, believe it or not, my psoriasis is worst in the summer >than it is in the winter. Can’t say that sunlight has anything to do >with it as I don’t go out in the sun unless I have to (summer or >winter).
I believe a few people here have said their P is worse in sunlight and/or maybe just worse in the summertime. Lisa 
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>>Another thing, believe it or not, my psoriasis is worst in the summer >than it is in the winter. Can’t say that sunlight has anything to do >with it as I don’t go out in the sun unless I have to (summer or >winter). >I believe a few people here have said their P is worse in sunlight and/or >maybe just worse in the summertime.
I’ve found the same, though I think it has more to do with the heat and moisture. Some people know it’s spring when the buds appear on the trees, I know when more chunks of my body start falling off. And that’s early spring when the sun is still low. And it’s *much* worse on the parts that don’t see the sun. The exposed areas appear to do better, more so on into summer. Terry
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Melanamo is a Killer because it spreads to all other parts of your body. True it may be cured IF and only IF you catch it early before it has spread. That’s why monthly self exams and a yearly exam by a good dermatologist is essential. If you have a family history of melanoma, then be extra careful because it runs in families.
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>Every summer when I get a tan, my P tends to clear up. It doesn’t appear >to be just the heat, ’cause when I am not out in the sun, it comes back. >What’s up? Do tanning beds help in winter?
You will get mixed theories on sunbeds. P is personal to a large extent and what works for one does not affect another… The sun beds you have to use are UVA and are designed to BURN your skin whereas UVB TANS your skin. UVA is dangerous and can cause skin cancer and certainly damages your skin. For this reason its use is medically controlled and may include a course nasty drugs which cause nausia and increased skin sensitivity to UV (so they use shorter doses thereby reducing long term risk). A UVB bed may work for you if your skin is so inclined. Don’t spend a fortune on it though. UV causes various changes in your skin but it still seems unclear which changes are affecting P. Melamin is produced, Vitamin D, is manufactured inside your skin cells, Oganisms in the skin may be affected by UV, skin production rate is changed. Whatever!, the effects you observe are completetly typical. I personally believe that our skin was designed to be exposed and bodies were not designed for the psycological and physiologocal stress and chemical attack that we inevitably suffer. We now cover our skin with clothes, hide away in boxes breath lovely pollution, and eat absolute crap! something is bound to give and I’m not surprised that P shows up, I consider my skin to be normal but in the wrong environment.
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>>Every summer when I get a tan, my P tends to clear up. It doesn’t appe >to be just the heat, ’cause when I am not out in the sun, it comes bac >What’s up? Do tanning beds help in winter? >jb>Yes, UV light helps lots of people, which is why phototherapy is a >jb>standard treatment. It works better to get controlled doses in a light >jb>box if your insurance will pay for it. >Personally, I’ve found that while either way is successful, I’ve actually >cleared up more completely when I’m getting natural sunshine. FWIW.
Someone help me here because I can’t seem to remember the difference between UVA light and UVB light. One of these kinds of lights is found in tanning beds, one from real sunlight. My dermatologist seemed to feel that the tanning light probably wasn’t very helpful because it was the wrong kind of light (although, as we all know, P cures are different for everybody). He suggested I try it, just to be sure–and, nope, it didn’t help at all. Another thing, believe it or not, my psoriasis is worst in the summer than it is in the winter. Can’t say that sunlight has anything to do with it as I don’t go out in the sun unless I have to (summer or winter). Linde Crawford
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>>>Another thing, believe it or not, my psoriasis is worst in the summer >>than it is in the winter. Can’t say that sunlight has anything to do >>with it as I don’t go out in the sun unless I have to (summer or >>winter). >I believe a few people here have said their P is worse in sunlight and/or >maybe just worse in the summertime. >I’ve found the same, though I think it has more to do with the heat and >moisture. Some people know it’s spring when the buds appear on the trees, >I know when more chunks of my body start falling off. And that’s early >spring when the sun is still low. And it’s *much* worse on the parts that >don’t see the sun. The exposed areas appear to do better, more so on into >summer. >Terry
Mine responds positively to copious sunlight doses (best on a beach, "thinks: could this be cool air as noted above, or salt water?") But I’m really shy about exposing myself in public so I don’t usually get enough anyway!. Could some peoples get worse because of the fear/stress of needing to undress in the heat?
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>Every summer when I get a tan, my P tends to clear up. It doesn’t appe >to be just the heat, ’cause when I am not out in the sun, it comes bac >What’s up? Do tanning beds help in winter?
jb>Yes, UV light helps lots of people, which is why phototherapy is a jb>standard treatment. It works better to get controlled doses in a light jb>box if your insurance will pay for it. Personally, I’ve found that while either way is successful, I’ve actually cleared up more completely when I’m getting natural sunshine. FWIW. * Wave Rider 1.20 [NR] * … UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
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I’ve seen plenty of dermatologists’ writings on the subject, and the >consensus seems to be that it’s not a big deal. Melanoma will kill you >if you don’t get it treated. However, if you catch it early (and those >who use phototherapy know to watch for the signs) it’s easily treated. >Melanoma is, I believe, the most "curable" cancer around.
I hardly think that’s true. Melanoma is one of the deadliest cancers around. Usuually kills within six months. For the most part, they are easier to detect than some internal cancers, but all parts of the body aren’t always easy to see (though an effort should be made to check out as much of the body as possible). Most other skin cancers (basal cell carcinoma, etc) are the ones that are generally very easily treated. And unlike a melanoma, they rarely metastize. Lisa
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Right on, Sherry … melanoma’s the killer, all right! We should all be watching ultra carefully for any skin changes, particularly those of us who still swear by sunning-for-the-cure. I’m hoping that I don’t have a genetic predispostion for cancer of any kins…..oops, LOLASLIP … I meant *kind* …. (not a trace in my family for three generations) .. and am therefore prepared to take the gamble. However, if I were a blue-eyed blonde, I think I’d be a little more cautious. ‘course, there’s still the hole in the ozone thing to worry about …. but worrying is so baaa.aaad for the p! Lola
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>>I’ve been told by 2 dermatoligists that sunlight (real or tanning bulbs) >does >reduce symptoms, and this has been true for me personally. Being outside >in >the summer, and using a tanning bed in the not-summer has helped clear >up >much of my p. The question seems to be, which is worse, psoriasis or >melanoma? >Well, let’s see, psoriasis (most likely) won’t kill you and a melanoma >will. Call me crazy, but I’d say melanoma is worse, by far.
I’ve seen plenty of dermatologists’ writings on the subject, and the consensus seems to be that it’s not a big deal. Melanoma will kill you if you don’t get it treated. However, if you catch it early (and those who use phototherapy know to watch for the signs) it’s easily treated. Melanoma is, I believe, the most "curable" cancer around. Darrin — Michael Darrin Chaney Consulting & Custom Programming for Today’s Business Phone: (812)333-6311 & (800)711-4240 Fax: (812)333-1894
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Chaney) writes: says… >>I’ve been told by 2 dermatoligists that sunlight (real or tanning bulbs) >does >>reduce symptoms, and this has been true for me personally. Being outside >in >>the summer, and using a tanning bed in the not-summer has helped clear >up >>much of my p. The question seems to be, which is worse, psoriasis or >>melanoma? >Well, let’s see, psoriasis (most likely) won’t kill you and a melanoma >will. Call me crazy, but I’d say melanoma is worse, by far. >I’ve seen plenty of dermatologists’ writings on the subject, and the >consensus seems to be that it’s not a big deal. Melanoma will kill you >if you don’t get it treated. However, if you catch it early (and those >who use phototherapy know to watch for the signs) it’s easily treated. >Melanoma is, I believe, the most "curable" cancer around. > Darrin >– >Michael Darrin Chaney Consulting & Custom Programming for Today’s Business
http://www.kiva.net/~mdchaney >Phone: (812)333-6311 & (800)711-4240 Fax: (812)333-1894
Darrin, I don’t think it’s melanoma that’s the most curable of the skin cancers; it’s basal cell, then squamous, and then if it’s caught in the very first stage, melanoma. In fact, it’s melanoma that can kill you if it’s not caught early, whereas basal cell would have to be neglected for a very long, unsightly time, and squamous falls somewhere in the middle. Not a doctor but have had many basal cell carcinomas and hope never to encounter melanoma, Sherry1
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Every summer when I get a tan, my P tends to clear up. It doesn’t appear to be just the heat, ’cause when I am not out in the sun, it comes back. What’s up? Do tanning beds help in winter? Fritz Gutwein
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> Every summer when I get a tan, my P tends to clear up. It doesn’t appear > to be just the heat, ’cause when I am not out in the sun, it comes back. > What’s up? Do tanning beds help in winter? > Fritz Gutwein
hi fritz: Yes you are correct. Sunlight, more specifically uvb tends to help dramatically clear psoriasis. I have a doctor prescribed uvb lamp in-home and have had good results tim cooper
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>Every summer when I get a tan, my P tends to clear up. It doesn’t appear >to be just the heat, ’cause when I am not out in the sun, it comes back. >What’s up? Do tanning beds help in winter?
Yes, UV light helps lots of people, which is why phototherapy is a standard treatment. It works better to get controlled doses in a light box if your insurance will pay for it. For the last six months I’ve been getting UVB three times a week, and it’s made more of a difference than any of the other things dermatologists have tried (corticosteroids, tar, Dovonex, Drithocreme, …). — (posting from UC Berkeley since our news is hosed again)
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I’ve been told by 2 dermatoligists that sunlight (real or tanning bulbs) does reduce symptoms, and this has been true for me personally. Being outside in the summer, and using a tanning bed in the not-summer has helped clear up much of my p. The question seems to be, which is worse, psoriasis or melanoma? Nelson
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I have had great success by combining Tegison with UVB treatments. I take 50 mg per day and get UVB three times per week. I get cleared (Ihave extensive p) usually in 3-4 weeks.
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>I’ve been told by 2 dermatoligists that sunlight (real or tanning bulbs) does >reduce symptoms, and this has been true for me personally. Being outside in >the summer, and using a tanning bed in the not-summer has helped clear up >much of my p. The question seems to be, which is worse, psoriasis or >melanoma?
Well, let’s see, psoriasis (most likely) won’t kill you and a melanoma will. Call me crazy, but I’d say melanoma is worse, by far. Lisa
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’ve been told by 2 dermatoligists that sunlight (real or tanning bulbs) > does >reduce symptoms, and this has been true for me personally. Being outside > in >the summer, and using a tanning bed in the not-summer has helped clear > up >much of my p. The question seems to be, which is worse, psoriasis or >melanoma? > Well, let’s see, psoriasis (most likely) won’t kill you and a melanoma > will. Call me crazy, but I’d say melanoma is worse, by far. > Lisa
Your chances of developing melanoma may increase, but I haven’t read any studies that have conclusively linked UVA or UVB treatments to melanoma. There are guidelines for how many joules per year someone should receive of UVA or UVB, and a good dermatologist will follow them. They also **should** be keeping an eye on you to ensure you don’t become red or sunburnt. My father has been receiving UVA since the late 60’s early 70’s while it was still in the research stages at Johns Hopkins Hospital. He’s 60 now, and has no signs of melanoma. I suppose everyone’s chances are different though, and ultimately it will have to be a personal decision weighing both sides of the issue. Cliff