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OT: And while we argue about Kerry this is happening
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Red China Attains Global Control of Ports > Charles R. Smith > Monday, March 27, 2006 > Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports deal is a > much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain control of > global ports that are strategically positioned to support military or > economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone > virtually unnoticed. > The powerful Chinese-owned Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. is now the world’s > biggest cargo terminal operator, according to London-based Drewry Shipping > Consultants. It also is the world’s largest port owner. > Hutchison Port Holdings has assumed control of scores of potential > economic choke points, including 169 berths at 41 ports worldwide. These > facilities control about 15 percent of global maritime container traffic. > Some of Hutchison’s ports lie near key sea lines of communication, such as > the Panama Canal, the Suez Canal and the eastern coast of the United > States. Of the eight international regions with choke points labeled by > the Department of Defense as "U.S. lifelines and transit regions," > Hutchison has ports in six. > "Amidst the furor over a U.A.E. corporate takeover of major U.S. and > Canadian seaports, scant notice has been given to the longstanding and > continuing threat from the PRC/Triad [People's Republic of China and > Chinese mobsters] ‘business’ presence at seaports around the world, > including the U.S. and Canada," stated a top-level Canadian port security > analyst. > "COSCO [China Ocean Shipping Co.] moved into Vancouver weeks after the > liberal, Sino suck-up government of Canada inexplicably got rid of the > ports police, which of course had nothing to do with the extensive > personal business interests held by the then and future prime ministers. > Now they’re in Halifax and the pattern is identical; they exclude everyone > from their operation, and commercial port operators with dollar signs in > their eyes and God knows what in their pockets blithely proclaim, ‘It’s > good for business.’ No doubt, but whose business — and what is the > business?" stated the analyst. > "Even Hillary Clinton is now decrying the installation of (billionaire) Li > Ka-Shing and his Hutchison Whampoa at both ends of the Panama Canal. Too > bad ethics didn’t trump self-interest when the Clintons approved the deal. > Maybe Hillary is just trolling for a renewal fee from her PRC benefactors. > After all, there’s another campaign on the horizon," noted the analyst. > Asia’s richest man, Li owns Hutchison Whampoa. He is well known outside of > financial circles, having attracted the attention of the U.S. military in > a top-secret document drawn up in 1999 during his successful bid to buy > the Panama Canal ports. > According to the October 1999 "intelligence assessment" prepared by the > U.S. military’s Southern Command, the Hong Kong billionaire is a "threat" > to U.S. national security. > "Hutchison Whampoa’s owner, Hong Kong tycoon Li Ka-Shing, has extensive > business ties in Beijing and has compelling financial reasons to maintain > a good relationship with China’s leadership," states the assessment. > "Hutchison’s containerized shipping facilities in the Panama Canal, as > well as the Bahamas, could provide a conduit for illegal shipments of > technology or prohibited items from the West to the PRC, or facilitate the > movement of arms and other prohibited items into the Americas," states the > 1999 report. > According to a 1999 investigative report by the American Foreign Policy > Council, "Hutchison Whampoa, through its Hutchison International Terminals > subsidiary or Panama Ports Co., has substantial links to the Chinese > communist government and the People’s Liberation Army." > The Hutchison Panama Ports Co. is 10 percent owned by China Resources > Enterprise (CRE), which is the commercial arm of China’s Ministry of Trade > and Economic Cooperation. > In its investigation into China’s attempts to influence the 1996 U.S. > presidential campaign, the U.S. Senate Government Affairs Committee > identified CRE as a conduit for "espionage – economic, political and > military – for China." > The committee’s then-chairman, Sen. Fred Thompson, said that CRE has > "geopolitical purposes. Kind of like a smiling tiger; it might look > friendly, but it’s very dangerous." > Republican Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi has described the Hong Kong firm > as "an arm of the People’s Liberation Army." > Li was a member of the board of the China International Trust and > Investment Corp. (CITIC), a business partner of COSCO. CITIC is the bank > of the Chinese army (People’s Liberation Army, or PLA), providing > financing for Chinese army weapons sales and Western technology purchases. > COSCO is known for its global commercial transport. COSCO also acts as the > merchant marine for the Chinese military. COSCO ships frequently > participate in Chinese naval exercises and are armed with missile > launchers. > COSCO ships have carried weapons to Iran, Pakistan, North Korea and Iraq. > COSCO ships also have carried nuclear weapon components to Pakistan. COSCO > ships have been used to ferry tanks to the Marxist regime in Burma, ship > North Korean rocket fuel to Pakistan and smuggle heroin into Canada. > The Chinese navy sometimes refers to COSCO ships as "zhanjian," or > warships, and boasts that COSCO workers are and will be "ready for battle > into the next century." > The Hong Kong Ming Pao newspaper reports the Chinese navy is stepping up > its refitting of COSCO merchant ships for use in war. COSCO container > ships can be used for both sea and ground operations, ferrying troops and > armored vehicles to launch attacks or land on beaches. > Chinese military officers told Ming Pao that some merchant ships also > could be fitted with large-caliber artillery and multibarrel rocket > launchers, medium- and small-caliber anti-aircraft guns and guided > missiles. The ships also can be used for laying anti-ship mines and for > anti-submarine warfare and to install electronic-deception devices. Li > also is well known for helping Chinese allies. He currently is developing > North Korea’s main harbor and is investing in the outlaw nation. > According to a 1994 dossier written by an "intelligence agency," Li has > "significant economic and political ties to China," including investments > in "a power station, a highway construction project and a large > contribution to Shantou University." > He also has had legal troubles and has a known criminal record. According > to Clinton White House documents, he was "found guilty of insider trading > after a widely publicized trial in 1984; he was not punished by the > courts." > Li has invested more than $1 billion in China and owns most of the dock > space in Hong Kong. In an exclusive deal with China’s communist > government, he has the right of first refusal over all PRC ports south of > the Yangtze River, which involves a close working relationship with the > Chinese military and businesses controlled by the PLA. > He has served as a middleman for PLA business dealings with the West. For > example, he financed several satellite deals between the U.S.-based Hughes > Corp. and China Hong Kong Satellite (CHINASAT), a company owned by the > PLA. > In 1997, U.S. taxpayers would have financed Li and the Chinese navy when > they nearly obtained four American-built huge roll-on/roll-off container > ships, which can be used for transporting military cargo. > U.S. Commerce Department documents also show that law enforcement agencies > were very concerned about Li’s connections to Triad criminal gangs. A 1995 > cable from the U.S. Embassy in Nassau noted that Li had signed an > agreement to build an $88 million container ship terminal in the Bahamas. > Curiously, for a harmless deal done by a Hong Kong tycoon, the copy list > for the cable included several law enforcement agencies, such as Customs > and the Drug Enforcement Agency. > "… U.S. agencies [have] security concerns about possible smuggling > attempts through the terminal," states the cable from the U.S. Embassy. > The late Adm. Thomas Moorer opposed Li and Hutchison Whampoa in his Panama > Canal takeover bid. Moorer, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, > also served as the commander of the Pacific and Atlantic Fleets. > "Of course, the Chinese military sees the benefit of having a base, a > future base, so close to the United States," Moorer said. > "What China is trying to do is get a kind of maritime position worldwide, > and they need a home base – so to speak – in every ocean. "Not only are > the Chinese in the Bahamas, they’re in Panama and the Spratly Islands > right off the Philippines. They tried to get Long Beach [Calif.]," Moorer > said. > "There’s no question about the fact in my mind that the Chinese military > forces are affiliated with Mr. Li, who in turn runs Hutchison Whampoa," > added Moorer. > SOFTWAR DOES NOT SEND UNSOLICITED EMAIL > OFFICIAL SOFTWAR COMMUNICATION > SOFTWAR EMAIL NEWSLETTER COPYRIGHT (C) 2006 SOFTWAR INC.
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Yes you have "your" priorities straight. You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the world? Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. You are one worthless fucking piece of shit.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports deal is a >> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain control >> of >> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military or >> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >> virtually unnoticed. > Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around 250,000 > personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret ops) > and > a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world COMBINED. And > enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. > Who has the empire, US or China?
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the good guy was tempted by the evil empire.
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China 
BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in addition to being involved in child slave trade. Mr Soul
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them. But we can’t attack iran without their strategic location. (;>(
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> China > BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very > involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in > addition to being involved in child slave trade. > Mr Soul
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Once again another stupid answer. UAE is on the other side of the Straits. It was a sarcastic joke.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And we need to attack Iran so that we can get their oil, and run a > pipeline > through there. >them. >But we can’t attack iran without their strategic location. (;>( >> China >> BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very >> involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in >> addition to being involved in child slave trade. >> Mr Soul
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And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you actually are.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Yes you have "your" priorities straight. > I do… I value things like education over militarism. I also believe in > diplomacy before violence. Get YOUR priorities straight, sparky. >You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. > If I didn’t care about my country I wouldn’t bother to criticize it. >You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the >world? > Face reality (I know it’s difficult) and try to get used to the fact that > the cold war is OVER. Bush and all these guys in the Pentagon are trying > to make the "war on terror" into the new cold war, but it’s bullshit. > The only empire in the word at present is the US… there is no other > threat that comes at all close to the USA in terms of military power. Not > a chance. The only reason we maintain all these bases at this point is to > assure that we can remain addicted to cheap fossil fuel. Just like many > addicts, we’re ready to kill anyone who gets between us and our supplier. >Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. > Read some history, pal. We won the second world war with a smaller > military than we have now, in terms of firepower. There was no > military/industrial complex until after WWII. > Who is going to start WW-III, besides the USA, with our constant meddling > and interferring with other sovereign nations? We’ve started more wars in > since the end of WW-II than in the previous 150 years before that. We are > pretty much the only aggressor with any real power now that the USSR is > history. >You are one worthless fucking piece of shit. > Jesus loves you… >>>> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports deal is >>>> a >>>> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain >>>> control >>>> of >>>> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military or >>>> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >>>> virtually unnoticed. >> Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around >> 250,000 >> personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret ops) >> and >> a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world COMBINED. >> And >> enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. >> Who has the empire, US or China?
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As I recall, correct if wrong, they have been running ports in Miami for years….
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The UAE is one big can of worms. We have been doing business with them for > some time… >China >BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very >involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in >addition to being involved in child slave trade. >Mr Soul
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Cubans? Ricans? WHICH spicks? -just playing- some of the nicest people I know are Latino. Besides, I like dark skinned pooty. Blondes are fun to masturbate into. Oink. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > As I recall, correct if wrong, they have been running ports in Miami for > years….
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I would get a better "debate" from a rock. You are too fucking stupid to know you are stupid, and you prove it constantly.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Once again, you prove you have the emotions and debating skills of a > 6-year > old. >And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you >actually are. >>>Yes you have "your" priorities straight. >> I do… I value things like education over militarism. I also believe >> in >> diplomacy before violence. Get YOUR priorities straight, sparky. >>>You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. >> If I didn’t care about my country I wouldn’t bother to criticize it. >>>You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the >>>world? >> Face reality (I know it’s difficult) and try to get used to the fact >> that >> the cold war is OVER. Bush and all these guys in the Pentagon are >> trying >> to make the "war on terror" into the new cold war, but it’s bullshit. >> The only empire in the word at present is the US… there is no other >> threat that comes at all close to the USA in terms of military power. >> Not >> a chance. The only reason we maintain all these bases at this point is >> to >> assure that we can remain addicted to cheap fossil fuel. Just like many >> addicts, we’re ready to kill anyone who gets between us and our >> supplier. >>>Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. >> Read some history, pal. We won the second world war with a smaller >> military than we have now, in terms of firepower. There was no >> military/industrial complex until after WWII. >> Who is going to start WW-III, besides the USA, with our constant >> meddling >> and interferring with other sovereign nations? We’ve started more wars >> in >> since the end of WW-II than in the previous 150 years before that. We >> are >> pretty much the only aggressor with any real power now that the USSR is >> history. >>>You are one worthless fucking piece of shit. >> Jesus loves you… >>>>>> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports deal >>>>>> is >>>>>> a >>>>>> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain >>>>>> control >>>>>> of >>>>>> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military >>>>>> or >>>>>> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >>>>>> virtually unnoticed. >>>> Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around >>>> 250,000 >>>> personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret >>>> ops) >>>> and >>>> a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world COMBINED. >>>> And >>>> enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. >>>> Who has the empire, US or China?
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What the fuck? You are one fucking stupid S.O.B.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Once again another stupid answer. >UAE is on the other side of the Straits. > Right, that’s why we have military air bases in the UAE I suppose? >It was a sarcastic joke. >> And we need to attack Iran so that we can get their oil, and run a >> pipeline >> through there. >>>them. >>>But we can’t attack iran without their strategic location. (;>( >>>> China >>>> BTW – I read an article about the UAE yesterday & there have been very >>>> involved with terrorism, more than what the 9/11 Commission cited, in >>>> addition to being involved in child slave trade. >>>> Mr Soul
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You don’t have a capacity for debate. You are just frustrating & a total waste of anyone’s time.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I would get a better "debate" from a rock. You are too fucking stupid to >know you are stupid, and you prove it constantly. > It’s not my fault you are incapable of civilized discussion. Name calling > is you last resort… >> Once again, you prove you have the emotions and debating skills of a >> 6-year >> old. >>>And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you >>>actually are. >>>>>Yes you have "your" priorities straight. >>>> I do… I value things like education over militarism. I also believe >>>> in >>>> diplomacy before violence. Get YOUR priorities straight, sparky. >>>>>You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. >>>> If I didn’t care about my country I wouldn’t bother to criticize it. >>>>>You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the >>>>>world? >>>> Face reality (I know it’s difficult) and try to get used to the fact >>>> that >>>> the cold war is OVER. Bush and all these guys in the Pentagon are >>>> trying >>>> to make the "war on terror" into the new cold war, but it’s bullshit. >>>> The only empire in the word at present is the US… there is no other >>>> threat that comes at all close to the USA in terms of military power. >>>> Not >>>> a chance. The only reason we maintain all these bases at this point >>>> is >>>> to >>>> assure that we can remain addicted to cheap fossil fuel. Just like >>>> many >>>> addicts, we’re ready to kill anyone who gets between us and our >>>> supplier. >>>>>Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. >>>> Read some history, pal. We won the second world war with a smaller >>>> military than we have now, in terms of firepower. There was no >>>> military/industrial complex until after WWII. >>>> Who is going to start WW-III, besides the USA, with our constant >>>> meddling >>>> and interferring with other sovereign nations? We’ve started more >>>> wars >>>> in >>>> since the end of WW-II than in the previous 150 years before that. We >>>> are >>>> pretty much the only aggressor with any real power now that the USSR >>>> is >>>> history. >>>>>You are one worthless fucking piece of shit. >>>> Jesus loves you… >>>>>>>> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports >>>>>>>> deal >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain >>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >>>>>>>> virtually unnoticed. >>>>>> Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around >>>>>> 250,000 >>>>>> personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret >>>>>> ops) >>>>>> and >>>>>> a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world >>>>>> COMBINED. >>>>>> And >>>>>> enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. >>>>>> Who has the empire, US or China?
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I only have so much to time to waste, on you. We still have bases around the planet, so we can at least try to stop shit like happened before. Has nothing to do with the cold war. Also, this morphed in to protecting the bankers & business interests. The other whining bullshit you posted has already been gone over repeatedly. We get it. Your opinion is the U.S. is all bad, the evil of the planet, all the other countries are great. Name the FREE COUNTRIES on this planet. That’s countries where you can have firearms, vote, bitch about your government without being shot, have basic protections from nearly everything. Not be censored<< though that is starting to creep in on us now. Come & go as you please. As much as you run down this country, you would be the first to whine & bitch, if your were inconvenienced in the least. Those sovereign nations we are having to watch, are mostly creations of lines drawn in the sand by 1 English guy & 1 french guy. If you really believe there are not countries that would love to take over & do as they please, you are a waste of time. Oh, I already knew that. America bad, all others great. Fuck off!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Nothing new to say, huh Sparky? >I would get a better "debate" from a rock. You are too fucking stupid to >know you are stupid, and you prove it constantly. >> Once again, you prove you have the emotions and debating skills of a >> 6-year >> old. >>>And once again , you prove what a fucking idiot you >>>actually are. >>>>>Yes you have "your" priorities straight. >>>> I do… I value things like education over militarism. I also believe >>>> in >>>> diplomacy before violence. Get YOUR priorities straight, sparky. >>>>>You should really move to china, as bad as you hate this country. >>>> If I didn’t care about my country I wouldn’t bother to criticize it. >>>>>You fucking idiot, why exactly do we have all these bases around the >>>>>world? >>>> Face reality (I know it’s difficult) and try to get used to the fact >>>> that >>>> the cold war is OVER. Bush and all these guys in the Pentagon are >>>> trying >>>> to make the "war on terror" into the new cold war, but it’s bullshit. >>>> The only empire in the word at present is the US… there is no other >>>> threat that comes at all close to the USA in terms of military power. >>>> Not >>>> a chance. The only reason we maintain all these bases at this point >>>> is >>>> to >>>> assure that we can remain addicted to cheap fossil fuel. Just like >>>> many >>>> addicts, we’re ready to kill anyone who gets between us and our >>>> supplier. >>>>>Because of 2 fucking world wars started by evil fucking empires. >>>> Read some history, pal. We won the second world war with a smaller >>>> military than we have now, in terms of firepower. There was no >>>> military/industrial complex until after WWII. >>>> Who is going to start WW-III, besides the USA, with our constant >>>> meddling >>>> and interferring with other sovereign nations? We’ve started more >>>> wars >>>> in >>>> since the end of WW-II than in the previous 150 years before that. We >>>> are >>>> pretty much the only aggressor with any real power now that the USSR >>>> is >>>> history. >>>>>You are one worthless fucking piece of shit. >>>> Jesus loves you… >>>>>>>> Overlooked during America’s preoccupation with the Dubai ports >>>>>>>> deal >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> much more imminent threat – China’s methodical campaign to gain >>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> global ports that are strategically positioned to support military >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> economic actions against the United States – a move that has gone >>>>>>>> virtually unnoticed. >>>>>> Meanwhile, the US has over 700 bases around the world, with around >>>>>> 250,000 >>>>>> personell deployed outside the "homeland" (not counting the secret >>>>>> ops) >>>>>> and >>>>>> a larger military budget than most of the rest of the world >>>>>> COMBINED. >>>>>> And >>>>>> enough nukes to blown up the earth about 50 times. >>>>>> Who has the empire, US or China?