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OT Adoption Information from Amy
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Terrific news! I’m so excited for you! Vickie B.
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> Hi Y’all! I got this info from a mailing list I am on. Our dossier (that’s al > the papers we gathered) was mailed to China on October 18th (we recieved > infromation from the US consulate on November 1st) This info is not from our > consultant….BUT it works the same for everyone. Our dossier should be in > expecting a May referel <crossing fingers and toes> > ANYWAY…..You all have been so sweet and so interested that I thought you > might like to read this…….BTW since it says that they believe that they > match temperments on faces I wonder what she will be like :O) > Amy > I live in a world of mystey and intrigue. I teach kindergarten.
So cool Amy, she will be one lucky baby because she has such a great mom. You will be traveling over to pick her up, are you planning to spend anytime in China? Be sure and sign up for Hotmail before you go so we can hear about your adventure. Most of the big hotels in China have a business center, and you can use e-mail. It can be a little daunting to look at a screen full of Chinese characters, but I found, if you say internet and hotmail they can get you on-line. It is great fun because your family and friends get to hear all the details of your adventure quickly. You could post to someone in ASA and we could all share your adventure and get the details on your new daughter. If you have any time be sure and check out a Chinese pharmacy, it is really interesting to see all the herbs (they cure everything), ginseng grades and deer horns cut into wafer thin slices. I saw bottles of wine fortified with snakes, whole snakes stuffed in the bottle. Supposedly better than Viagra. They had small dry snakes coiled up, about 3/4 inches in diameter that you could take as pills. Incidentally Chinese customs was a breeze, easier than getting into the US, this time I wouldn’t hesitate to take E through security and customs. Morning exercise with the Chinese can be a blast they are up at 5:30 to 6 doing everything from Tai chi and ballroom dancing to traditional sword dances. Fun, and they love it when westerners join them. Well, you’ll probably be busy with your daughter, and I am excited for you! — MZ
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>BTW since it says that they believe that they > match temperments on faces I wonder what she will be like :O) ….. Krissy, > Sarah B, Lady Andy, Gloria….you all have seen me….what do you think??? I > really am wondering what she will look like and what she will be like….. :O) > Amy,
She will look like a goddess but woe be unto you if she ever gets ticked off! (I remember the Blue/Cross-Enbrel war!)….LOL… I’m getting so excited! She’s almost here! And you’re barely showing 
Nana Gloria
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barely showing….. from BEHIND!!! cuzzin’ Uv(carried triplets… one in front TWO behind)
And you’re barely showing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Nana Gloria
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Sarah L suggested, "Maybe he’ll get extra points for good behavior as an adult." Lord I hope so! :O) Amy I live in a world of mystey and intrigue. I teach kindergarten.
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When were you there Mary? It has been 10 years for me and I really miss it. Not sure I could handle the flight again but I really would like to try. Amy — in the big hotels in China they have real toilets, but they also have chinese toilets which involve a porcelain hole in the floor that actually flushes. Then there was the country side where you just get the hole in the floor. I used to be able to squat like they do but can no longer get into that position if I plan to ever get out but since you can get down on the floor with your little ones again, that should be a snap. I love the chinese clothing for the little ones. There is a split seam [and no diapers] in pants. They just hold the child over the curb just off the sidewalk and let them go. That’s okay, because early morning [5:30 or so] the streets fill with an army of senior ladies who sweep, sweep, sweep…. And they can carry ANYTHING on a bicycle: pigs, chickens,…. And somehow women ride a men’s bike with their leg stuck under the brace and thru to the other side. I know I saw this yet can’t imagine how they do it — tried it here myself and my leg won’t bend that direction but it could be the difference in chinese bikes [no brakes-eeewwwoo-that was a surprise] and ours. BTW, something that sounds like TWO-DOLLAR means let’s go. Cha is for tea which is leaves of jasmin [if you need a lot of caffeine to kept moving you had better take your own - hehehe], and don’t ask what GOME-BYE means as it involves a wicked hangover. Hope you like eggs and peanuts — <g> Do you know which city yet? Caroline – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Y’all! I got this info from a mailing list I am on. Our dossier (that’s al > the papers we gathered) was mailed to China on October 18th (we recieved > infromation from the US consulate on November 1st) This info is not from our > consultant….BUT it works the same for everyone. Our dossier should be in > expecting a May referel <crossing fingers and toes> > ANYWAY…..You all have been so sweet and so interested that I thought you > might like to read this…….BTW since it says that they believe that they > match temperments on faces I wonder what she will be like :O) > Amy > I live in a world of mystey and intrigue. I teach kindergarten. > So cool Amy, she will be one lucky baby because she has such a great > mom. You will be traveling over to pick her up, are you planning to > spend anytime in China? Be sure and sign up for Hotmail before you go > so we can hear about your adventure. Most of the big hotels in China > have a business center, and you can use e-mail. It can be a little > daunting to look at a screen full of Chinese characters, but I found, if > you say internet and hotmail they can get you on-line. It is great fun > because your family and friends get to hear all the details of your > adventure quickly. You could post to someone in ASA and we could all > share your adventure and get the details on your new daughter. If you > have any time be sure and check out a Chinese pharmacy, it is really > interesting to see all the herbs (they cure everything), ginseng grades > and deer horns cut into wafer thin slices. I saw bottles of wine > fortified with snakes, whole snakes stuffed in the bottle. Supposedly > better than Viagra. They had small dry snakes coiled up, about 3/4 > inches in diameter that you could take as pills. Incidentally Chinese > customs was a breeze, easier than getting into the US, this time I > wouldn’t hesitate to take E through security and customs. Morning > exercise with the Chinese can be a blast they are up at 5:30 to 6 doing > everything from Tai chi and ballroom dancing to traditional sword > dances. Fun, and they love it when westerners join them. Well, you’ll > probably be busy with your daughter, and I am excited for you! — MZ
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > When were you there Mary? It has been 10 years for me and I really miss > it. Not sure I could handle the flight again but I really would like to > try. Amy — in the big hotels in China they have real toilets, but they > also have chinese toilets which involve a porcelain hole in the floor > that actually flushes. Then there was the country side where you just > get the hole in the floor. I used to be able to squat like they do but > can no longer get into that position if I plan to ever get out but since > you can get down on the floor with your little ones again, that should > be a snap. > I love the chinese clothing for the little ones. There is a split seam > [and no diapers] in pants. They just hold the child over the curb just > off the sidewalk and let them go. That’s okay, because early morning > [5:30 or so] the streets fill with an army of senior ladies who sweep, > sweep, sweep…. > And they can carry ANYTHING on a bicycle: pigs, chickens,…. And > somehow women ride a men’s bike with their leg stuck under the brace and > thru to the other side. I know I saw this yet can’t imagine how they do > it — tried it here myself and my leg won’t bend that direction but it > could be the difference in chinese bikes [no brakes-eeewwwoo-that was a > surprise] and ours.
Still the same! I was there last year, but they do have more western toilets. And those split pants for the babies are a real kick, Amy should check them out, no diapers. Great bicycles, every type of work bike I could imagine, and the street sweepers are still the same senior ladies. Amy you’ve got to e-mail us about this adventure! Remember we want pictures of the baby! — MZ
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MZ said, "Amy you’ve got to e-mail us about this adventure! Remember we want pictures of the baby! –" You got it…:O) Amy I live in a world of mystery and intrigue. I teach kindergarten.
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>BTW since it says that they believe that they >match temperments on faces I wonder what she will be like :O) ….. Krissy, >Sarah B, Lady Andy, Gloria….you all have seen me….what do you think??? > I >really am wondering what she will look like and what she will be like….. >:O)
Amy, she is going to be sweet and pretty just like you!!! She’ll be wonderful!!!! Keep Smilin’ ~Krissy Akron, Ohio Senior Editor http://www.arthritiswebsite.com
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Amy, wonderful news, things are getting closer everyday. Nic. Perth, W. Aus. <snip>> Our dossier should be in > Dept 2 sometime this month <yyyyiiipppeee and doin a happy
> expecting a May referel <crossing fingers and toes>
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>BTW since it says that they believe that they >match temperments on faces I wonder what she will be like :O) ….. Krissy, >Sarah B, Lady Andy, Gloria….you all have seen me….what do you think???
Dear Amy… She will look like an angel, of course! love Sarah B.
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Great news Amy!!! Kate Send in the clowns I will not drag you along; I will not leave you alone; I will stand by you and have my hand there for you to hold when you need it.
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hi read with much intrest your adoption information. Have dau and husband that are childless and would very much like some information. She too is a teacher. Would you mind sharing the costs of a china adoption? Thanks
> Hi Y’all! I got this info from a mailing list I am on. Our dossier (that’s al > the papers we gathered) was mailed to China on October 18th (we recieved > infromation from the US consulate on November 1st) This info is not from our > consultant….BUT it works the same for everyone. Our dossier should be in > Dept 2 sometime this month <yyyyiiipppeee and doin a happy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> expecting a May referel <crossing fingers and toes> > ANYWAY…..You all have been so sweet and so interested that I thought you > might like to read this…….BTW since it says that they believe that they > match temperments on faces I wonder what she will be like :O) ….. Krissy, > Sarah B, Lady Andy, Gloria….you all have seen me….what do you think??? I > really am wondering what she will look like and what she will be like….. :O) > The Dossier Process in China > by Andrea Venkatanarayana, M.A. > Program Coordinator > Many of you may be wondering what happens after you send your dossier to our > office. The first thing that happens when we receive > your dossier is that I review your documents to make sure you have everything > and that all of the documentation is correct. > Examples of some of the things I look for are that I check to make sure your > notaries are the correct ones mentioned in the > certifications, and I check to make sure your homestudy meets the Chinese > standards and has the correct information for your > situation (i.e. age and health of the baby). If there is a problem, I call > you to discuss how we can correct it. Usually, the problems are > easily corrected. The most frequent problem is that you will forget your > picture or include other family members in the picture who do > not live in the home. Only the nuclear adopting family should be included in > the picture – Mom, Dad, and siblings, if any, who live in > the home. Lastly, I check to make sure you included a Xerox copy of all of > the documents for us, and that your check has the correct > amount on it. > After I have approved your dossier, we compile it into a nice formal > presentation. The documents in the dossier go in a certain order. > It is the same order that is listed in your Adoption Manual. After it is > compiled in the folder in the right order, we put your picture on the > cover so the Chinese Center for Adoption Affairs (CCAA) can see what a great > family you are right away. Once the dossier is > complete, I review it one more time for accuracy. This process can take up > to a week. After I finish the final check, it joins other > dossiers on their journey to China. Dossiers rarely come to our office alone > – they come in clusters. > We send out dossiers to China via Federal Express on average about once a > week. It takes usually 4-5 days (as few as 3 as many > as 10) for the dossiers to get to our office in China. Upon arriving at our > Chinese office, our staff takes each of the dossiers and > makes several copies of them. Usually within 24 hours (if during the week) > your dossier is taken to the CCAA where it is registered > and it officially takes its place in line. At that point our staff goes back > to the copies and uses the copies to translate the documents > into Chinese. This process keeps your dossier from losing valuable waiting > time just to be translated. Once the copies are > translated, the translations join the originals. > At this point your dossier is in the Registration Department.The > Registration Department is where the CCAA does an initial review of > your documents and makes sure you have all of the right ones and that they > have all of the right seals. This part can take 3-4 > months for a family in the healthy category and a month or so longer for a > family in the special needs category. The next place your > dossier goes is Department 1. In Department 1, your documents are more > closely scrutinized for their content. The homestudy is > reviewed carefully along with your other documents. If there is a problem, > it will usually be discovered here, and the Great Wall China > office will notify the Home Office so we can fix the problem. This part can > also take 3-4 months (healthy) or slightly longer (SN). > The next place your dossier goes is Department 2 or the Matching Room. The > Matching Room is the department where your dossier > will be matched with a referral. Your dossier usually enters the matching > room about 1 month before referral. The officials use the > information in your dossier about the child you have requested and the > picture you have sent to match you with a baby or child. The > Chinese believe that a persons face is indicative of the persons personality > and temperament. They try to have the parents’ > temperament match the child’s. We usually know within a day or two after > matching that you have been matched. We will not > inform you of this fact until after the child’s health and well-being has > been confirmed (usually 1-3 days). This is to protect you. After > we have confirmed that all is well with your child, we will call you with the > information that we have. The pictures and medical > information usually follows within a few days. This information will be > translated as quickly as possible so you can see the picture of > your child as soon as possible. The information which you will receive is > the picture, original Chinese medical exam, English > translation of the medical exam, and whenever possible information on the > town or province that you are going to as well as names > and numbers of potential traveling partners. > It is important after you get your referral for you to get your signed, > unnotarized, original acceptance (or rejection) forms back to us as > soon as possible. We have to Federal Express them to China in order to apply > for travel approval. The longer it takes to receive the > forms, the longer it will take before you travel. > It is important to remember that we do not always know exactly when a dossier > goes from one department to another. We can > estimate based on the average time other dossiers spent in each place. > Amy > I live in a world of mystey and intrigue. I teach kindergarten.
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Thanks for sending that Amy. It is very interesting. Sounds like you have about 6 weeks before you see pictures. Exciting!!! Caroline – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Y’all! I got this info from a mailing list I am on. Our dossier (that’s al > the papers we gathered) was mailed to China on October 18th (we recieved > infromation from the US consulate on November 1st) This info is not from our > consultant….BUT it works the same for everyone. Our dossier should be in > expecting a May referel <crossing fingers and toes> > ANYWAY…..You all have been so sweet and so interested that I thought you > might like to read this…….BTW since it says that they believe that they > match temperments on faces I wonder what she will be like :O) ….. Krissy, > Sarah B, Lady Andy, Gloria….you all have seen me….what do you think??? I > really am wondering what she will look like and what she will be like….. :O) > The Dossier Process in China > by Andrea Venkatanarayana, M.A. > Program Coordinator > Many of you may be wondering what happens after you send your dossier to our > office. The first thing that happens when we receive > your dossier is that I review your documents to make sure you have everything > and that all of the documentation is correct. > Examples of some of the things I look for are that I check to make sure your > notaries are the correct ones mentioned in the > certifications, and I check to make sure your homestudy meets the Chinese > standards and has the correct information for your > situation (i.e. age and health of the baby). If there is a problem, I call > you to discuss how we can correct it. Usually, the problems are > easily corrected. The most frequent problem is that you will forget your > picture or include other family members in the picture who do > not live in the home. Only the nuclear adopting family should be included in > the picture – Mom, Dad, and siblings, if any, who live in > the home. Lastly, I check to make sure you included a Xerox copy of all of > the documents for us, and that your check has the correct > amount on it. > After I have approved your dossier, we compile it into a nice formal > presentation. The documents in the dossier go in a certain order. > It is the same order that is listed in your Adoption Manual. After it is > compiled in the folder in the right order, we put your picture on the > cover so the Chinese Center for Adoption Affairs (CCAA) can see what a great > family you are right away. Once the dossier is > complete, I review it one more time for accuracy. This process can take up > to a week. After I finish the final check, it joins other > dossiers on their journey to China. Dossiers rarely come to our office alone > – they come in clusters. > We send out dossiers to China via Federal Express on average about once a > week. It takes usually 4-5 days (as few as 3 as many > as 10) for the dossiers to get to our office in China. Upon arriving at our > Chinese office, our staff takes each of the dossiers and > makes several copies of them. Usually within 24 hours (if during the week) > your dossier is taken to the CCAA where it is registered > and it officially takes its place in line. At that point our staff goes back > to the copies and uses the copies to translate the documents > into Chinese. This process keeps your dossier from losing valuable waiting > time just to be translated. Once the copies are > translated, the translations join the originals. > At this point your dossier is in the Registration Department.The > Registration Department is where the CCAA does an initial review of > your documents and makes sure you have all of the right ones and that they > have all of the right seals. This part can take 3-4 > months for a family in the healthy category and a month or so longer for a > family in the special needs category. The next place your > dossier goes is Department 1. In Department 1, your documents are more > closely scrutinized for their content. The homestudy is > reviewed carefully along with your other documents. If there is a problem, > it will usually be discovered here, and the Great Wall China > office will notify the Home Office so we can fix the problem. This part can > also take 3-4 months (healthy) or slightly longer (SN). > The next place your dossier goes is Department 2 or the Matching Room. The > Matching Room is the department where your dossier > will be matched with a referral. Your dossier usually enters the matching > room about 1 month before referral. The officials use the > information in your dossier about the child you have requested and the > picture you have sent to match you with a baby or child. The > Chinese believe that a persons face is indicative of the persons personality > and temperament. They try to have the parents’ > temperament match the child’s. We usually know within a day or two after > matching that you have been matched. We will not > inform you of this fact until after the child’s health and well-being has > been confirmed (usually 1-3 days). This is to protect you. After > we have confirmed that all is well with your child, we will call you with the > information that we have. The pictures and medical > information usually follows within a few days. This information will be > translated as quickly as possible so you can see the picture of > your child as soon as possible. The information which you will receive is > the picture, original Chinese medical exam, English > translation of the medical exam, and whenever possible information on the > town or province that you are going to as well as names > and numbers of potential traveling partners. > It is important after you get your referral for you to get your signed, > unnotarized, original acceptance (or rejection) forms back to us as > soon as possible. We have to Federal Express them to China in order to apply > for travel approval. The longer it takes to receive the > forms, the longer it will take before you travel. > It is important to remember that we do not always know exactly when a dossier > goes from one department to another. We can > estimate based on the average time other dossiers spent in each place. > Amy > I live in a world of mystey and intrigue. I teach kindergarten.
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>Our dossier should be in >are >expecting a May referel
Congrats Amy. This means May will be your time for labor and I am sure waiting for that letter and photo will feel like it. I am so happy for you. You are getting so close. I am sure that you are already about to jump out of your skin in anticipation. As for your other post about paybacks from childhood, your dh couldn’t have been too bad, you ended up marrying him. Maybe he’ll get extra points for good behavior as an adult. Sarah L "Friends are those people who know the words to the song in your heart and sing them back to you when you have forgotten the words." (unattributed)
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Hi Y’all! I got this info from a mailing list I am on. Our dossier (that’s al the papers we gathered) was mailed to China on October 18th (we recieved infromation from the US consulate on November 1st) This info is not from our consultant….BUT it works the same for everyone. Our dossier should be in expecting a May referel <crossing fingers and toes> ANYWAY…..You all have been so sweet and so interested that I thought you might like to read this…….BTW since it says that they believe that they match temperments on faces I wonder what she will be like :O) ….. Krissy, Sarah B, Lady Andy, Gloria….you all have seen me….what do you think??? I really am wondering what she will look like and what she will be like….. :O) The Dossier Process in China by Andrea Venkatanarayana, M.A. Program Coordinator Many of you may be wondering what happens after you send your dossier to our office. The first thing that happens when we receive your dossier is that I review your documents to make sure you have everything and that all of the documentation is correct. Examples of some of the things I look for are that I check to make sure your notaries are the correct ones mentioned in the certifications, and I check to make sure your homestudy meets the Chinese standards and has the correct information for your situation (i.e. age and health of the baby). If there is a problem, I call you to discuss how we can correct it. Usually, the problems are easily corrected. The most frequent problem is that you will forget your picture or include other family members in the picture who do not live in the home. Only the nuclear adopting family should be included in the picture – Mom, Dad, and siblings, if any, who live in the home. Lastly, I check to make sure you included a Xerox copy of all of the documents for us, and that your check has the correct amount on it. After I have approved your dossier, we compile it into a nice formal presentation. The documents in the dossier go in a certain order. It is the same order that is listed in your Adoption Manual. After it is compiled in the folder in the right order, we put your picture on the cover so the Chinese Center for Adoption Affairs (CCAA) can see what a great family you are right away. Once the dossier is complete, I review it one more time for accuracy. This process can take up to a week. After I finish the final check, it joins other dossiers on their journey to China. Dossiers rarely come to our office alone – they come in clusters. We send out dossiers to China via Federal Express on average about once a week. It takes usually 4-5 days (as few as 3 as many as 10) for the dossiers to get to our office in China. Upon arriving at our Chinese office, our staff takes each of the dossiers and makes several copies of them. Usually within 24 hours (if during the week) your dossier is taken to the CCAA where it is registered and it officially takes its place in line. At that point our staff goes back to the copies and uses the copies to translate the documents into Chinese. This process keeps your dossier from losing valuable waiting time just to be translated. Once the copies are translated, the translations join the originals. At this point your dossier is in the Registration Department.The Registration Department is where the CCAA does an initial review of your documents and makes sure you have all of the right ones and that they have all of the right seals. This part can take 3-4 months for a family in the healthy category and a month or so longer for a family in the special needs category. The next place your dossier goes is Department 1. In Department 1, your documents are more closely scrutinized for their content. The homestudy is reviewed carefully along with your other documents. If there is a problem, it will usually be discovered here, and the Great Wall China office will notify the Home Office so we can fix the problem. This part can also take 3-4 months (healthy) or slightly longer (SN). The next place your dossier goes is Department 2 or the Matching Room. The Matching Room is the department where your dossier will be matched with a referral. Your dossier usually enters the matching room about 1 month before referral. The officials use the information in your dossier about the child you have requested and the picture you have sent to match you with a baby or child. The Chinese believe that a persons face is indicative of the persons personality and temperament. They try to have the parents’ temperament match the child’s. We usually know within a day or two after matching that you have been matched. We will not inform you of this fact until after the child’s health and well-being has been confirmed (usually 1-3 days). This is to protect you. After we have confirmed that all is well with your child, we will call you with the information that we have. The pictures and medical information usually follows within a few days. This information will be translated as quickly as possible so you can see the picture of your child as soon as possible. The information which you will receive is the picture, original Chinese medical exam, English translation of the medical exam, and whenever possible information on the town or province that you are going to as well as names and numbers of potential traveling partners. It is important after you get your referral for you to get your signed, unnotarized, original acceptance (or rejection) forms back to us as soon as possible. We have to Federal Express them to China in order to apply for travel approval. The longer it takes to receive the forms, the longer it will take before you travel. It is important to remember that we do not always know exactly when a dossier goes from one department to another. We can estimate based on the average time other dossiers spent in each place. Amy I live in a world of mystey and intrigue. I teach kindergarten.