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> Gina, I agree with you, I also got so much Flak about NOT breastfeeding my > chidren–I was ready to scream! Everyone told me that my kids would not be > heathy and some even implied that they would be "not as smart" as breastfed > babies. Well, I am here to say that BOTH my kids are very healthy and very > intelligent and guess what they were BOTTLE fed. I am not saying breastfeeding > is not good, all I am saying is that there a lot of people who can’t breastfeed > for many different reasons. > Breastfeeding is not the ONLY acceptable option
I have to say I didn’t read that into Barbara’s post at all. She wasn’t saying that you *must* breastfeed or else. She didn’t say that artificially-fed babies will be less healthy (though statistically, that is true) or "not as smart" (though, statistically, breastfed babies do have marginally higher IQ’s). What she said was that breastfeeding is superior to bottle-feeding by a very wide margin, and that is absolutely true. It doesn’t mean that if, for some reason (structural abnormalities, HIV, PKU, active TB, adopted baby, galactosemia, certain medications, inability to pump and necessity to work outside the home etc) you can’t breastfeed your baby will be sickly and stupid. Of course that’s not the case! There have been many many children over the years raised on formula who have certainly "turned out alright". (though roughly 3-5% of the population is unable to breastfeed. Most formula-feds are so because mom doesn’t *want* to, not *can’t*) Breastfeeding is vastly superior to formula-feeding, but formula feeding is vastly superior to starvation, or to any other non-human milk options. Of course, this thread was not about breastfeeding. It was a specific question about a baby reacting to the powdered versus the liquid formula. As I have no experience in that area, I’ll graciously leave the thread now. Phan– mom to Keith (4) and Jack (3mo)
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Breast is best! I have bottle feed, nursed and with this one I struggled to nurse for six months and finally supplemented with this one. I miss the closness that I had with the second one but it is best for this little one that I supplement. With that said. I use powder with this one(was not a option with the first) I use warm or hot water to mix the formula. And then refrigerate it. If I have to make it on the fly I use warm water it helps dissolve the formula. I also use Emfamil, which seems tobe the best for dissolving. I hae a problem getting Similac to dissolve. Also are you adding the formula to the water or are you adding water to the powder? You are supposed to add the powder to the water ( I m sure you know this but just in case). I had the dissolve problem with my god-daughter and I used a knife in the bottle to break it up or I made it by the pichter(sp?).My oldest was constpated also(used similac with iron at first)And I had to switch him to a low iron formula. The best advice I can give is to consult your babys Dr. I hope I helped. Angie(Nick 11yrs, Sarhea 6yrs, & Kaitlynn(bugg)7mths) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am looking for lessons learned on formula
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Breast isn’t just best by a little; it’s best by a *lot*! It’s well worth it >>just to give it a try for the first six weeks (with help from a qualified >>lactation consultant if you’re having problems before giving up). >>Sorry, I just can’t help myself when I read a story like this. Babies >>should >>get at least a chance at being fed the best ready-to-feed formula on >earth >>(and it ain’t Similac, Enfamil, etc.)! >Unfortuntely breastfeeding is not an option for everyone. I had planned to >breastfeed my son, but I couldn’t because of medical problems. For others it >is just not feasible for some reason or other. Each person’s preference is >their own and NO one else’s business. Sorry, but I got so much flak about not >breastfeeding my son when I couldn’t (no one even asked why, they just let me >have it). I understand if that is your stand on the issue, but please find out >the circumstances before you blast someone because they are formula
feeding. Gina, I simply suggested that anyone expecting a baby *consider* breastfeeding, which you obviously did. I didn’t blast the original poster, whose situation I know nothing about. Instead, I pointed out that breastfeeding usually prevents the type of problems he described. What I am trying to do is *promote* breastfeeding to people who plan to have children, not give flak to anyone who isn’t breastfeeding an existing child. Some women don’t really even consider it as an alternative because they are so familiar with bottlefeeding. By pointing out the advantages, maybe we can get these women to look at it as something they might at least try. Finally, I have to say that I think it *is* my business what people feed their children when there is such a marked effect on overall health. Yes, I know that some formula-fed babies are never sick and some breastfed babies are sick a lot, but the overall statistical fact remains that breastfeeding makes babies healthier. Given that we all, as a society, pay the costs of health care, it’s in all our interests to promote the feeding method that is most likely to reduce overall health care costs. As long as formula feeding is the norm, it’s not happening because women *can’t* breastfeed (only about 3% really can’t), it’s happening because they choose not to, perhaps simply because they don’t really believe that they can. I’d like to see this trend reversed, so I try to promote breastfeeding and convince women that, for the most part, they *can* do it. Be well, Barbara (Julian’s mom) "Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put." – Winston Churchill
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nfortuntely breastfeeding is not an option for everyone. I had planned to breastfeed my son, but I couldn’t because of medical problems. For others it is just not feasible for some reason or other. Each person’s preference is their own and NO one else’s business." Hiya…You are right. It is no one else’s business..I think breastfeedin’ moms get upset because it is still such a taboo in our society, and at times THEY are the ones who get tons of flak…As a percentage though, it somehting like only 3% ofwomen who cannot breastfeed for some reason..Many woen don’t realize that it is best and just don’t want to do it because it is inconvenient they feel or too "icky"..I understand your position fully, but I think it is also ok to make people aware that it is the best thing if you can manage it (and excluding you), most women can do it and there is help out there for them..Cheers, C
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Gina, I agree with you, I also got so much Flak about NOT breastfeeding my chidren–I was ready to scream! Everyone told me that my kids would not be heathy and some even implied that they would be "not as smart" as breastfed babies. Well, I am here to say that BOTH my kids are very healthy and very intelligent and guess what they were BOTTLE fed. I am not saying breastfeeding is not good, all I am saying is that there a lot of people who can’t breastfeed for many different reasons. Breastfeeding is not the ONLY acceptable option >Unfortuntely breastfeeding is not an option for everyone. I had
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>>Breast isn’t just best by a little; it’s best by a *lot*! It’s well worth it >just to give it a try for the first six weeks (with help from a qualified >lactation consultant if you’re having problems before giving up). >Sorry, I just can’t help myself when I read a story like this. Babies >should >get at least a chance at being fed the best ready-to-feed formula on >>earth >(and it ain’t Similac, Enfamil, etc.)!
Unfortuntely breastfeeding is not an option for everyone. I had planned to breastfeed my son, but I couldn’t because of medical problems. For others it is just not feasible for some reason or other. Each person’s preference is their own and NO one else’s business. Sorry, but I got so much flak about not breastfeeding my son when I couldn’t (no one even asked why, they just let me have it). I understand if that is your stand on the issue, but please find out the circumstances before you blast someone because they are formula feeding. Gina Mom to Michael 7-25-96 — 33 lbs and my back is killing me :-)
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I used to mix up a days’ supply of powdered formula and distilled water every morning in my blender, because my son would have the same problem with the powder. I also found the distilled water worked better for him than regular tap water (part of the reason probably was that the tap water here in San Diego, CA tastes like MUD!) LOL… HarleyGirl San Diego, CA —– – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I had the same problem with my daughter and powder formula. I always > thought it was because I couldn’t seem to get it to mix up well enough. > There was always little clumps of powder in the nipple and at the bottom of > the bottle. So I just switched to RTF and concentrate. She never fussed > again. If it is becasue of the mixxing problem, the advice about mixing it > the night before and letting it set is probably a real good idea, it’ll get > the air and the clumps out! Good luck. > — > Dawn (Taylor & Mackenzie’s mom) >>> > I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a >newborn >>> > son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the >pre-made >>> > Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same >>> > formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and >when he >>> > does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does >drink >>> > it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If >anyone >>> > has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you >>> > resolved this.
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> > >Oh, yeah: obligatory "breast is best." > Since you opened the door for me, I hope anyone with a baby on the way will > *strongly* consider breastfeeding instead of formula to avoid the problems > experienced by the original poster of this thread. Breastfed babies are > almost never constipated, and the iron and calcium in breast milk are easily > absorbed. > Half right: the calcium is. There isn’t enough iron > to bother mentioning.
Not so!!! This is an old "wives tale" of sorts. True, there isn’t much iron in breastmilk compared to, say iron-fortified cereals. That’s because what is there is absorbed much more easily (at least half of the iron in breastmilk is absorbed, as compared with 5-10% of the iron in artificial baby milk). In fact, adding aditional iron sources to a breastfed baby’s diet can interfere with their ability to absorb iron at all. In any case, it is simply not true that breastmilk is devoid of iron. It has just the amount the baby needs when the need it, as with any other nutrient. Wonderful stuff! Phan– mom to Keith (4) and Jack (3mo)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Since you opened the door for me, I hope anyone with a baby on the way will > > *strongly* consider breastfeeding instead of formula to avoid the problems > > experienced by the original poster of this thread. Breastfed babies are > > almost never constipated, and the iron and calcium in breast milk are easily > > absorbed. > Half right: the calcium is. There isn’t enough iron > to bother mentioning. >Not so!!! This is an old "wives tale" of sorts. True, there isn’t much >iron in breastmilk compared to, say iron-fortified cereals. That’s >because what is there is absorbed much more easily (at least half of the >iron in breastmilk is absorbed, as compared with 5-10% of the iron in >artificial baby milk). In fact, adding aditional iron sources to a >breastfed baby’s diet can interfere with their ability to absorb iron at >all. In any case, it is simply not true that breastmilk is devoid of >iron. It has just the amount the baby needs when the need it, as with >any other nutrient. Wonderful stuff! > Phan– mom to Keith (4) and Jack (3mo)
Thanks for setting this straight, Phan. When I read the post, I was prepared to do it, but now I don’t have to! Be well, Barbara (Julian’s mom) "Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put." – Winston Churchill
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I had the same problem with my daughter and powder formula. I always thought it was because I couldn’t seem to get it to mix up well enough. There was always little clumps of powder in the nipple and at the bottom of the bottle. So I just switched to RTF and concentrate. She never fussed again. If it is becasue of the mixxing problem, the advice about mixing it the night before and letting it set is probably a real good idea, it’ll get the air and the clumps out! Good luck. — Dawn (Taylor & Mackenzie’s mom) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> > I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a >newborn >> > son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the >pre-made >> > Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same >> > formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and >when he >> > does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does >drink >> > it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If >anyone >> > has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you >> > resolved this.
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> >Oh, yeah: obligatory "breast is best." > Since you opened the door for me, I hope anyone with a baby on the way will > *strongly* consider breastfeeding instead of formula to avoid the problems > experienced by the original poster of this thread. Breastfed babies are > almost never constipated, and the iron and calcium in breast milk are easily > absorbed.
Half right: the calcium is. There isn’t enough iron to bother mentioning. This is not a bad thing; it’s WHY babies have so much reserve iron to start with. What’s surprising (at least in retrospect) was that the medical community could seriously entertain the notion that the absense of iron in breastmilk was Bad for Baby. Well, now it turns out that Geritol may have caused more than its share of heart attacks and there may have been WAY too much iron in the diet of MOST Americans. — D. C. & M. V. Sessions
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>The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he > does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink > it, he seems to be constipated.
A friend had the same problem with her newborn. Simply switching to the ready to feed or the condensed formula was all that was needed. From baby’s perspective it must have tasted better (because she drank it with relish as opposed to fussing over the powder mix), and since it has more bulk, constipation was eliminated. Mary
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >The entire breast/bottle thing aside, babies are born with >iron reserves sufficient for months. The iron-enriched >formula is *not* needed, and iron can cause constipation. >Also, iron and calcium (which your son needs LOTS of) are >somewhat antagonistic in the gut, so PLEASE consider >getting away from the iron-enriched stuff. >Another possible contributing factor in constipation >is that formula tends to be very filling, with less >frequent feedings than with breastmilk. This tends >to provide less net fluid, which can both constipate >and dehydrate. Count the wet diapers (or better yet >weigh them) and check with your paediatrician. >Oh, yeah: obligatory "breast is best."
Since you opened the door for me, I hope anyone with a baby on the way will *strongly* consider breastfeeding instead of formula to avoid the problems experienced by the original poster of this thread. Breastfed babies are almost never constipated, and the iron and calcium in breast milk are easily absorbed. Breast isn’t just best by a little; it’s best by a *lot*! It’s well worth it just to give it a try for the first six weeks (with help from a qualified lactation consultant if you’re having problems before giving up). Sorry, I just can’t help myself when I read a story like this. Babies should get at least a chance at being fed the best ready-to-feed formula on earth (and it ain’t Similac, Enfamil, etc.)! Be well, Barbara (Julian’s mom) "Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put." – Winston Churchill
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> The entire breast/bottle thing aside, babies are born with > iron reserves sufficient for months. The iron-enriched > formula is *not* needed, and iron can cause constipation. > Also, iron and calcium (which your son needs LOTS of) are > somewhat antagonistic in the gut, so PLEASE consider > getting away from the iron-enriched stuff.
This is true, but be sure to consult with your doctor. Our daughter’s hermatocrit (sp?) levels were very low; this can affect intellectual growth later in life, and she required the iron-enriched formula to boost this. Make sure that your baby doesn’t need the iron-enriched formula before you consider taking her off it. Mike — From Seattle, WA – Seahawks, cinema, science and more at http://kohary.simplenet.com Seahawks: http://kohary.simplenet.com/hawks.htm Cinema: http://kohary.simplenet.com/movies.htm Science: http://kohary.simplenet.com/science.htm
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> > The entire breast/bottle thing aside, babies are born with > iron reserves sufficient for months. The iron-enriched > formula is *not* needed, and iron can cause constipation. > Also, iron and calcium (which your son needs LOTS of) are > somewhat antagonistic in the gut, so PLEASE consider > getting away from the iron-enriched stuff. > This is true, but be sure to consult with your doctor. Our daughter’s > hermatocrit (sp?) levels were very low; this can affect intellectual > growth later in life, and she required the iron-enriched formula to > boost this. Make sure that your baby doesn’t need the iron-enriched > formula before you consider taking her off it.
What he said. Meant to add the obligatory "consult MD" line and blew it. Note though, that the real question isn’t low haematocrit (which can resolve in very short order) but reserve iron. Low crit can be caused by very transient events (eg bleeding) while reserves are high. There’s some indication that reserve iron is a potential health risk. It’s a long way from proven, but enough to raise considerable doubt on the old attitude that "more iron is better" right up to the edge of toxicity. — D. C. & M. V. Sessions
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>I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a newborn >son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made >Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same >formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he >does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink >it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone >has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you >resolved this.
Personally I had no problem with the first brand of formula I used & I stayed with it throughout the first year. But other friends did have problems & had to experiment a bit. So try a different brand for a few days & see how you get on. The important thing is, once you have discovered a brand that your baby likes, stick to it & don’t change it arbitrarily as that can upset their system. Good luck. Pat.
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my son is the exact opposite, i started him on the powder and when i was caught out longer that expected i bought some ready to feed he had a hard time with it. my guess is kids like what they are used to, so if he started on the RTF or concentrated you should probably stick with it IMHO. susan mom to matthew 3 mos – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hello- > > I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a newborn > > son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made > > Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same > > formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he > > does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink > > it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone > > has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you > > resolved this. > > TIA > Hi—I had the same problem with my son when it came time to give him > formula. I used the powder, and he was spitting up all the time. I > mentioned this to a friend, and she told me that this stopped when she > switched from powder to the concentrate and ready-to-feed. Switching > worked for my son. The powder is cheapest, and easiest to use away from > home, but the babies seem to prefer the concentrate/RTF. Check > prices–Wal-Mart was much cheaper than the grocery. > Good Luck—Pam >We found that using distilled water with the powder helped somewhat when >we travelled so it may be that your local water makes it taste different >than the water used in the RTF. And *always* make up a days worth of >formula the night before and fill all the bottles. After they’re >shaken, a lot of air gets incorporated into the formula and letting it >sit overnight helps them settle out so that they’re less likely to cause >gas or spitting up. Of course, some kids just prefer one formula over >another. >Leigh in raLeigh
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We also started our daughter on pre-made formula and when we switched to powder she was having tummy problems….We thought maybe because it wasn’t getting mixed as thoroughly. So our solution was: we got a pitcher and measured out # of bottles (ie:2-12 8 oz.), we then added the number of scoops needed for amount of bottles we wanted to make, we used our Braun handmixer…..and WALA! The formula was mixed better and always consistent. She hasn’t had any problems since. I might also add that we also use the Brita pitcher to filter our water. Good luck!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a newborn >son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made >Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same >formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he >does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink >it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone >has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you >resolved this. > Personally I had no problem with the first brand of formula I used & I stayed > with it throughout the first year. But other friends did have problems & had to > experiment a bit. So try a different brand for a few days & see how you get on. > The important thing is, once you have discovered a brand that your baby likes, > stick to it & don’t change it arbitrarily as that can upset their system.
We’ve all been warned not to switch pet food suddenly. Guess what? The same applies to baby formula. Anyone switching formulas should try mixing the types as a transition. — D. C. & M. V. Sessions
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> I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a newborn > son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made > Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same > formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he > does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink > it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone > has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you > resolved this.
The entire breast/bottle thing aside, babies are born with iron reserves sufficient for months. The iron-enriched formula is *not* needed, and iron can cause constipation. Also, iron and calcium (which your son needs LOTS of) are somewhat antagonistic in the gut, so PLEASE consider getting away from the iron-enriched stuff. Another possible contributing factor in constipation is that formula tends to be very filling, with less frequent feedings than with breastmilk. This tends to provide less net fluid, which can both constipate and dehydrate. Count the wet diapers (or better yet weigh them) and check with your paediatrician. Oh, yeah: obligatory "breast is best." — D. C. & M. V. Sessions
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello- > I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a newborn > son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made > Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same > formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he > does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink > it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone > has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you > resolved this. > TIA > Hi—I had the same problem with my son when it came time to give him > formula. I used the powder, and he was spitting up all the time. I > mentioned this to a friend, and she told me that this stopped when she > switched from powder to the concentrate and ready-to-feed. Switching > worked for my son. The powder is cheapest, and easiest to use away from > home, but the babies seem to prefer the concentrate/RTF. Check > prices–Wal-Mart was much cheaper than the grocery. > Good Luck—Pam
We found that using distilled water with the powder helped somewhat when we travelled so it may be that your local water makes it taste different than the water used in the RTF. And *always* make up a days worth of formula the night before and fill all the bottles. After they’re shaken, a lot of air gets incorporated into the formula and letting it sit overnight helps them settle out so that they’re less likely to cause gas or spitting up. Of course, some kids just prefer one formula over another. Leigh in raLeigh
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> Hello- > I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a newborn > son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made > Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same > formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he > does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink > it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone > has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you > resolved this.
Our daughter also was on formula very young (starting at 3 months, she rejected the breast herself). We used the powder Enfamil with iron, and had many of the same problems (except she seemed to like the powder ok). The iron is what makes him constipated; that’s normal, and it’ll come and go. He’ll pass it in time. As for the spitting up, that’s also very normal; expect him to do it for months to come! :) As for not liking the powder, go out and buy the pre-mixed stuff and see if he likes that any better. Good luck! Mike — From Seattle, WA – Seahawks, cinema, science and more at http://kohary.simplenet.com Seahawks: http://kohary.simplenet.com/hawks.htm Cinema: http://kohary.simplenet.com/movies.htm Science: http://kohary.simplenet.com/science.htm
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> Hello- > I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a newborn > son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made > Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same > formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he > does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink > it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone > has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you > resolved this. > TIA
Hi—I had the same problem with my son when it came time to give him formula. I used the powder, and he was spitting up all the time. I mentioned this to a friend, and she told me that this stopped when she switched from powder to the concentrate and ready-to-feed. Switching worked for my son. The powder is cheapest, and easiest to use away from home, but the babies seem to prefer the concentrate/RTF. Check prices–Wal-Mart was much cheaper than the grocery. Good Luck—Pam
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Hello- I am looking for lessons learned on formulas. My wife and I have a newborn son (8 days old). While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and when he does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you resolved this. TIA
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>>While we where in the hospital he was eating the pre-made >Enfamil with iron and at home we are using the powder mix of the same >formula. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to like the powder and >>when he >does drink it, it takes him a little longer to drink it. When he does drink >it, he seems to be constipated. Yesterday he spit it up twice. If anyone >has had the same or close to experience, I would love to hear how you >resolved this.
While my son didn’t have a problem switching between the two types of formula, my niece did. My sister finally just switched to the liquid concentrate–problem solved. I know it is more expensive, but if it makes your son more comfortable I’d say it is worth it. Are by any chance on Enfamil’s mailing list? I received MANY $$ off in retail rebate checks from them. (You use them like coupons) Good luck with your little one. They grow up so fast! Mine is 22 months old and it seems like just yesterday he was 8 days old!!! Gina Mom to Michael 7-25-96 — 33 lbs and my back is killing me :-)