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Posting too late at night and simple forgetfulness. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > If his post was considered too ;long by you , why the hell did you include > all the original, and totalling 69KB > Bad start. Posting binaries to non-binary groups always causes problems. > <Snipped to save space>>>
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If his post was considered too ;long by you , why the hell did you include all the original, and totalling 69KB
> Bad start. Posting binaries to non-binary groups always causes problems.
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I already found a manufacturer of the lamp making machine. His name is Wolf Rosenberg and already built an experimental machine and made some lamps. They were sent to Osram (huge lamp manufacturer) but they decided not to manufacture them because they will lose money. The lamp last longer and gives more light at the same time. For a long time I was sure that someone else invented this lamp because it is very very simple. After spending maybe 20 hours in a patent search, and not finding it, I made a search at a givernment agency, and they still did not find it. I than spent another 10 hours and still it seems to be new. A 70 kilobyte attached file is not so big, any picture you can see in alt.pic for example is about the same size. I am thinking about puting it in a website and if I hear more complains I will. Thanks for your attention anyway. Regards Gil Teva GT marketing Jerusalem 02-6259677 Tel: 054-948642 visit our sites: http://gtmarketing.8m.com http://gtmarketing.8m.net
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bad start. Posting binaries to non-binary groups always causes problems. > Sending marketing material and seeking investors gets you no points. > It’s not clear whether the lamp will last 3 or 5 times longer as you use > both numbers. Having someone who makes machines that makes lamps is not > quite the same as having someone who makes lamps. Your post is way too > long and should have at best been a link to a website. Etc. > Attached a file describing a new fluorescent lamp. > The lamp last 5 times longer than normal fluorescent lamps. The use of > that > lamp will reduce energy waste and land pollution coming from lamps > (mercury > and toxic metals). > We are at early stages of developing the lamp, an need any help like > funding, partners, donations or whatever. > Please see if you can help us. > — > Gil Teva > GT marketing > Jerusalem > 02-6259677 > Tel: 054-948642 > visit our sites: http://gtmarketing.8m.com http://gtmarketing.8m.net > High power fluorescent lamp > [Image] > Technical description > A compact fluorescent lamp with a new design. > Gives 6 times more light at the same lamp size. > Lifetime of 3 times than an ordinary fluorescent lamp (50,000 hours) > Higher efficiency than an ordinary fluorescent lamp at the same > length. A 30 cm long lam has the same efficiency as a 60 cm long lamp. > (1). > Simple installation, does not require special socket or a technician > assistant. > The new design does not include special materials but only a different > shape of the lamp. > Possibility to make lamps having different power levels, lengths and > diameters. > Manufacturing cost is half of another fluorescent lamp with the same > power. > Uses > All the uses of today > Other uses requiring strong light: living rooms, shops, factories, > streets, airports. > More efficient than high pressure mercury lamps, no need for a heavy > and expensive ballast, instant start, possibility to add a dimmer. > The potential market > In 2000 the sales of lamps in the world was 15 billion dollars. (2) > Dominated by Osram (%20) Philips (%20) and GE (%14) > OSRAM 20% . PHILIPS 20 % . GE 14 %. (3). > Sales are: %47 Europe, %37 America, %17 Asia. > The rising market: China, an increase of %50 every year during the > last 10 years. > Hundreds of manufacturers, mainly of low cost compact fluorescent > lamps (CFL) (4) > The use of fluorescent lamps saves energy. In US there are laws that > stop the use of energy wasting lamps. > The use of fluorescent lamps is needed because of the energy cruise > which is going to come and the air pollution.(5) . > Business activity done already > US patent was asked in 13th July 2001, received number 60/304941 > After the patent application, the inventor showed the drawing to a > famous expert, Wolf Rosenberg. He has a company that builds machines > that manufacture lamps. He hires experts from GE and he has branches > in Germany, Chile and Argentina. (6) > Rosenberg consulted his engineers and decided that the lamp can work. > Another expert gave a very good opinion about the lamp, his letter is > attached below. > Required business activity > Applying for an international patent. (A patent search of 30 hours did > not find a patent like this). > This should cost about $10,000. > Showing the patent application to Osram, and waiting for an offer from > them. > If there is no positive response, showing the patent application to > Philips and GE (The inventor visited factories of them in various > countries and he knows the managers) > In parallel, contacting Rosenberg, asking him for a quote for a > machine that will manufacture the lamp. > If the price is reasonable, making a factory to manufacture the lamps. > Receiving grants from the US energy office. Fluorescent lamps are > approved easily there. > A $50,000 grant from a fund in Israel was approved and will be given > at the first of December 2001. > The cost of production of the lamp is calculated by the cost of the > materials and the cost of the machine that will build the lamp. > A 100 watt lamp will cost $5 in the materials. > The start up cost is estimated as 1 million dollar, this is mainly for > an automatic machine that can make 1 million lamps a year. > Projected annual expenses, in case of manufacturing the lamp, are 1 > million dollar for the first year. > Projected annual sales are 15 million dollars, based on 1 million > lamps. > Projected annual profits are 14 million dollars, based on 1 million > lamps. > The amount of Investment required is 1 million dollar. > The Investment required is Passive Venture Capital. > Victor Roberts > 3 Garrison Road > Burnt Hills, NY 12027 > Memo to: Gil Teva > Consultant, High Performance Lighting Systems > coaxial fluorescent lamp. > I am writing in response to your e-mail of October 8, 2001 and the two > attached documents. > I have been developing high performance discharge lamps since 1971. I > am currently the inventor or co-inventor of thirty U.S. patents issued > for discharge lamps, electronic ballasts and associated technology. (A > list will be provided upon request.) I have never seen an idea quite > like the one you propose. In my opinion, your lamp is unique. > The closest idea to your invention I know about is a lamp invented by > John Campbell in the late 1960’s while employed by General Electric > Lighting. Mr. Campbell’s invention was titled "Sequential Arc lamp". > He also used coaxial discharge tubes, but, unlike you, had a single > centrally mounted cathode and a multiplicity of anodes, which were > powered sequentially by an electronic circuit so the discharge would > rotate around the space created by the coaxial tubes. Since he used a > single cathode, his lamp was not capable of the high power density > that your lamp should be able to achieve. > Your use of individual capacitive ballasts for each electrode shows a > good understanding of the operating principles of fluorescent lamps. > The use of multiple discharges in coaxial tubes also reduces the power > per unit surface area, which should reduce lumen depreciation of the > phosphor. Based on the life of the best current generation fluorescent > lamps, and your stated current of 0.2 Amperes per electrode, your > claim of 30,000 hours life is not unreasonable. > I have some concern about your ability to construct this lamp at low > cost, but you have told me you have solved this problem. I assume you > use additional proprietary methods for the construction of the lamp. > (I have no interest at the present time learning about your lamp > construction methods, because I wish to limit my knowledge of > information that is proprietary to you.) In addition, the relative > large surface area may lead to relatively high cost of you choose to > use an expensive rare earth phosphor. However, the cost per lumen hour > for the phosphor should be very competitive with existing compact > fluorescent lamp designs. > You may contact me at: > Phone: +1 518-399-4952 > FAX: +1 520-396-8080 > The inventor: > Gil Teva Israel > ID 559529 > 7 Hacahvazelet street City center Jerusalem 94224 > Tel: +972 2 6259677 > Mobile: +972 54 948642 > Date of birth: June, 2nd 1959 > Education: practical engineering. > Jobs: established two companies: Superlaser in AShkelon, Israel, Refla > in Cyprus. (6) (7) > Manufacture and distribute medical lamps during the last 3 years. (8) > .
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Bad start. Posting binaries to non-binary groups always causes problems. Sending marketing material and seeking investors gets you no points. It’s not clear whether the lamp will last 3 or 5 times longer as you use both numbers. Having someone who makes machines that makes lamps is not quite the same as having someone who makes lamps. Your post is way too long and should have at best been a link to a website. Etc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Attached a file describing a new fluorescent lamp. > The lamp last 5 times longer than normal fluorescent lamps. The use of > that > lamp will reduce energy waste and land pollution coming from lamps > (mercury > and toxic metals). > We are at early stages of developing the lamp, an need any help like > funding, partners, donations or whatever. > Please see if you can help us. > — > Gil Teva > GT marketing > Jerusalem > 02-6259677 > Tel: 054-948642 > visit our sites: http://gtmarketing.8m.com http://gtmarketing.8m.net > High power fluorescent lamp > [Image] > Technical description > A compact fluorescent lamp with a new design. > Gives 6 times more light at the same lamp size. > Lifetime of 3 times than an ordinary fluorescent lamp (50,000 hours) > Higher efficiency than an ordinary fluorescent lamp at the same > length. A 30 cm long lam has the same efficiency as a 60 cm long lamp. > (1). > Simple installation, does not require special socket or a technician > assistant. > The new design does not include special materials but only a different > shape of the lamp. > Possibility to make lamps having different power levels, lengths and > diameters. > Manufacturing cost is half of another fluorescent lamp with the same > power. > Uses > All the uses of today > Other uses requiring strong light: living rooms, shops, factories, > streets, airports. > More efficient than high pressure mercury lamps, no need for a heavy > and expensive ballast, instant start, possibility to add a dimmer. > The potential market > In 2000 the sales of lamps in the world was 15 billion dollars. (2) > Dominated by Osram (%20) Philips (%20) and GE (%14) > OSRAM 20% . PHILIPS 20 % . GE 14 %.
