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Entwistle's Revenge
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let’s not forget that pee wee was arrested from an encounter in a heterosexual theatre.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Touring in the shadow of Entwistle’s death has apparently created some bad > karma for Pete Townsend. > Perhaps a few years in prison will help Pete once again get reacquainted > with his feminine side. > What’s next – Daltry getting caught in a sword fight with Pee Wee Herman?
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> and a > pop-up window from some porn site appears on your screen, or you go to > one of these sites by accident or out of curiosity, the picture(s) is > saved on your hard-drive.
Not "or" – Yes to the second, NO to the first. Pop-ups don’t get saved. (I’m pretty sure, anyway. Any computer geekoids, feel free to tell us more, yes or no…. and I mean "geekoids" in the best way!!) I’m rather stunned by this whole revelation about British law. Between this and the idiotic laws about performances in pubs, it sounds like they are trying really hard to shit on the Magna Carta…..
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>they are trying really hard to shit on the Magna Carta…..
Mexican beer, right? Edward G. ‘Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.’ –Henry Kissinger
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>I now use a ‘mail washer’ program so that any unwanted E mails get >deleted and ‘bounced’ before they hit Outlook. (try >http://www.mailwasher.net its free and DOES work)
PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS PROGRAM! Apologies for shouting, but many components of spam are forged, so that Mailwasher often ends up sending its bounces to the wrong place. Your spam could be getting forwarded to some innocent third party whose email address just happens to coincide with whatever the spammer dreamed up. It often takes a careful reading of mail headers to figure out where the message actually originated from. Google the archives of news.admin.net-abuse.email for more discussion. Unit #02582: Endangered Old-Growth Redwood Toothpick Artisans, LLC [TINEO-GRTALLC] — Frivolity is a stern taskmaster.
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> Magna Carta….. > Mexican beer, right?
LOL PMWL
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>I’m rather stunned by this whole revelation about British law. Between >this and the idiotic laws about performances in pubs, it sounds like >they are trying really hard to shit on the Magna Carta…..
A Guardian writer just did a piece about trying to investigate the child porn industry, if he went to one of the web sites, or so much as had a URL on his computer, he would be open to five years, the law has no room for intent or purpose or anything, just *looking* at child porn, or something representing itself as child porn, even if it’s really adults posing, is hard time in the slammer. So I guess if you want to mess up someone in the UK, you slide some underage porn under his door, and call the cops, they’ll take care of the rest. The goal I understand and applaud, the scum who make this stuff should rot in hell, but the methods being employed….
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>> pop-up window from some porn site appears on your screen … > … Pop-ups don’t get > saved. (I’m pretty sure, anyway. Any computer geekoids, feel free > to tell us more, yes or no…. and I mean "geekoids" in the best > way!!)
Generally, all web pages, inc. popups, inc. graphics, are saved (cached) on your disk. One exception might be some of the fancy Flash or Java-based ads – the little animations and games. But if a webcam pop-up ad shows a woman in a bathing suit, that picture is on your disk.
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"Dear Barry and Robin. Sorry to hear about your loss. I’d be happy to look after the children while you attend your brother’s funeral! Yours sincerely, Pete!" — marc & co.
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> "Dear Barry and Robin. > Sorry to hear about your loss. I’d be happy to look after the children > while you attend your brother’s funeral! > Yours sincerely, > Pete!"
That isn’t funny — that’s SICK. Show some decency to all the above mentioned people. Grow up, while you’re at it.
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>"Dear Barry and Robin. > Sorry to hear about your loss. I’d be happy to look after the children >while you attend your brother’s funeral! > Yours sincerely, > Pete!" >– >marc & co.
I, for the life of me, cannot find anything funny about the situations the Gibb Brothers and/or Pete Townshend find themselves in, try as I might. You, my friend, are an idiot, and hopefully one I will never meet. Edward G. ‘Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.’ –Henry Kissinger
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> "Dear Barry and Robin. > Sorry to hear about your loss. I’d be happy to look after the children > while you attend your brother’s funeral! > Yours sincerely, > Pete!" > — > marc & co.
While that might be funny 5 years from now, now it ain’t. Don’t care for Pete or the brother’s Gibb myself, but someone who claims he was abused as a child, and someone who just lost their twin brother deserve your respect jackass. Cheers! — -rob O< "!" /() ^^
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>While that might be funny 5 years from now, now it ain’t. Don’t care for Pete >or the brother’s Gibb myself, but someone who claims he was abused as a child, >and someone who just lost their twin brother deserve your respect jackass. >Cheers!
GWYNNE DYER The last rock hero The Who’s Pete Townshend was arrested for downloading child pornography last week. —- I wish he had not done it. I believe that his motives were good, but I never thought I would see the day when Pete Townshend would have to say: "I am not a paedophile." Let me tell you a story about The Who. It was in the late seventies, a decade after their first flush of fame, and Pete Townshend had been off the road for almost three years fighting his drink and drug demons. (No special breaks for rich and famous rock stars who get offered endless supplies of really good drugs but, as Joe Cocker put it in his anthem, "It’s hard to leave when you can’t find the door.") So they were getting back out in public in a tentative way, doing unadvertised gigs in small venues in the less fashionable parts of London. I heard about the one at the Sundowner up in Edmonton at the last minute and, frankly, I’d never been that far north in London before. Two more tube stops, and you’d be in Scotland. But, like always, they gave value for money, playing the whole canon from My Generation to Won’t Get Fooled Again. One hour, two hours, three and all four or five hundred people packed into the venue are uneasy, looking at their watches, because we’re a long way from home, and the last underground train is going now, and lots of us don’t even have taxi fare to get back to our parts of London. But they’re still playing, and nobody leaves. So finally The Who leave the stage, close to midnight, and we all spill out into the winter dark wondering how the hell we’re going to get home. And there, lined up outside the theatre, are a dozen chartered buses with signs in their windows for all the different boroughs of London. It took a while, but they got us all home, right to our doors. I am not a person who admits easily to having heroes, but if I were, Pete Townshend would be one of them. Certainly my only musician hero, and not just because The Who were the best rock band in history: the first who played it loud enough to make your ears bleed, the first who broke out of the simple guitars-and-love-song pattern of early rock ‘n roll, first synthesisers, first intelligent lyrics, first (and still best) rock opera – and the one band that always gave full measure no matter how rich, famous and stoned they got. Townshend himself, for all the early dramatics about smashing guitars on stage, always gave the impression of being an intelligent (he was a consultant for Faber and Faber), serious, even moral man, in a trade that is not exactly drowning in those qualities. Now he’s under suspicion for downloading child pornography from an American Internet portal that gives access to thousands of kiddie-porn websites, mostly in Russia or Indonesia. So are about 7 000 other people in Britain whose credit card details were found when investigators in Texas broke into the site. About 1 300 homes in Britain have been raided in "Operation Ore", and among those arrested already are a judge, magistrates, hospital consultants and a deputy headmaster, along with around 50 policemen. This was all happening very quietly, so that other suspects would not reformat their hard drives before the police got around to knocking on their doors – but then somebody slipped the word to the Daily Mail in London that Pete Townshend’s name had turned up among the 7 000. Only hours after the Mail hit the streets, Townshend called a press conference to explain that he only visited the site once, as research for a campaign he is working on against child abuse. Some of the research would be incorporated in a book he is writing about his own childhood, for he is convinced that he was sexually abused between the ages of five and six-and-half, when he was staying with a mentally ill grandmother. "I cannot remember clearly what happened, but my creative work tends to throw up nasty shadows, particularly in Tommy," he said. And the mob who love to see the rich and famous brought low went: "Yeah, right, he was doing research for a book." It was a very stupid thing to do, but if you look at Pete Townshend’s past the explanation is credible. His rock opera Tommy, written over 30 years ago, was all about child abuse at a time when the topic was not in the least fashionable. The scene in which the "deaf, dumb and blind kid" is left alone to be groped by his drunken Uncle Ernie – "Fiddle about, fiddle about" – is the first time that the sexual abuse of children actually comes up in mainstream English-language popular art. Townshend wouldn’t say that he only entered the site once if he actually had done so many times, because he knows that the police already have the credit card records. The police might never even have contacted Townshend if the Mail had not run its story, for they are clearly exercising some judgment about which of the visitors to the site were actually users of child pornography: they haven’t arrested all 7 000 people on the list. But once Townshend’s name was in the public domain, they could not avoid arresting him – not with all those other prominent people already under arrest. So now he’ll probably have to wade through the whole long nausea of a trial, though he’s still likely to be found innocent in the end. It’s a miserable business, and I wish he hadn’t done it – although not as much as he does, I’m sure. But this is a good man in a bad time and place, not a bad man. Gwynne Dyer is a London-based independent journalist whose articles are published in 45 countries. http://www.witness.co.za/showcontent.asp?id=12386&action=full&catid=3
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<Certainly my only musician hero, and not just because The Who were the best rock band in history: the first who played it loud enough to make your ears bleed,> Probably. <the first who broke out of the simple guitars-and-love-song pattern of early rock ‘n roll,> Ever hear of Bob Dylan? <first synthesisers,> The Beatles used them two years before the Who. < first intelligent lyrics,> Bob Dylan again. < first (and still best) rock opera> Actually, "Tommy" was the third rock opera ever recorded, and the second one to be released. The names of the first two escape me at the moment, but Pete was aware of both. < – and the one band that always gave full measure no matter how rich, famous and stoned they got.> True. The Who on their worst day were still one of, if not the best live band around. My band’s site: www.strongerthandirt.com
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<as Joe Cocker put it in his anthem, "It’s hard to leave when you can’t find the door.")> That would be Joe Walsh, not Cocker. My band’s site: www.strongerthandirt.com
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>Ever hear of Bob Dylan?
Who wasn’t considered a "rock" performer at the time, although rock performers were certainly hanging on his every word. >Actually, "Tommy" was the third rock opera ever recorded, and the second one to >be released. The names of the first two escape me at the moment, but Pete was >aware of both.
The Kinks have a good claim on first rock opera with "Arthur," for whatever that’s worth, probably not much. >< – and the one band that always gave full measure no matter how rich, famous >and stoned they got.> >True. The Who on their worst day were still one of, if not the best live band >around.
I remember the book Rock Dreams, a real antique document by now, which said that in the end The Who played longer and harder for the people than any other band, hard to argue with that.
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Well truth is they had no insurance and were paid in advance. In Britain tour insurance can be as much as 40% of the gross, the Stones don’t even pay it. The Who is a joint owned corporation Likely the money was spoken for (bills, tax, etc, alimony for John’s "witch" ex wife) before the first note was even played, JBL did sponser the sound system but Pete, Roger and Johns estate would have had to give the $$ back + restitution + years of lawsuits from everyone from the promoter’s to the coach and trailer drivers who blocked out the whole summer. (this is one thing John would not have been looking down laughing at with Peter Sellers ) Its not so simple -Joe
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I hope people don’t misinterpret this as one of those "stop the wife/kids/boss/girlfriend from finding all those Tijuana Donkey Pictures on your computer" spams. What I’m getting at is that every time you’re surfing the net and a pop-up window from some porn site appears on your screen, or you go to one of these sites by accident or out of curiosity, the picture(s) is saved on your hard-drive. Joe S.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You should go through your hard drive using something like JASC Media > Center – you’ll be (unpleasantly) surprised at what’s lurking there in > several different caches. And when you delete stuff, as you probably > know, the files are still lurking until they’re physically overwritten. > I use Norton Wipeinfo and wipe my hard drive’s unused space every month > or so. This isn’t an endorsement of Norton’s, BTW, it’s just the one I > happen to use. > Joe S. > Touring in the shadow of Entwistle’s death has apparently created some > bad > karma for Pete Townsend. > Perhaps a few years in prison will help Pete once again get > reacquainted > with his feminine side. > What’s next – Daltry getting caught in a sword fight with Pee Wee > Herman?
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>totally agree with your comments. >But, I am primarily interested in my own protection though.
Oh, me too, I got interested in jacking up spammers simply because it seemed like one of the best ways to defend my computer, every spammer whose website gets shut down is one less to pollute my mailbox. ;-)
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You should go through your hard drive using something like JASC Media Center – you’ll be (unpleasantly) surprised at what’s lurking there in several different caches. And when you delete stuff, as you probably know, the files are still lurking until they’re physically overwritten. I use Norton Wipeinfo and wipe my hard drive’s unused space every month or so. This isn’t an endorsement of Norton’s, BTW, it’s just the one I happen to use. Joe S.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Touring in the shadow of Entwistle’s death has apparently created some bad > karma for Pete Townsend. > Perhaps a few years in prison will help Pete once again get reacquainted > with his feminine side. > What’s next – Daltry getting caught in a sword fight with Pee Wee Herman?
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Touring in the shadow of Entwistle’s death has apparently created some bad karma for Pete Townsend. Perhaps a few years in prison will help Pete once again get reacquainted with his feminine side. What’s next – Daltry getting caught in a sword fight with Pee Wee Herman?
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> Touring in the shadow of Entwistle’s death has apparently created some bad > karma for Pete Townsend. > Perhaps a few years in prison will help Pete once again get reacquainted > with his feminine side. > What’s next – Daltry getting caught in a sword fight with Pee Wee Herman?
I’m sure JAE appreciates being mentioned in this post bro. nice one. — -rob O< "!" /() ^^
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>Touring in the shadow of Entwistle’s death has apparently created some bad >karma for Pete Townsend. >Perhaps a few years in prison will help Pete once again get reacquainted >with his feminine side. >What’s next – Daltry getting caught in a sword fight with Pee Wee Herman?
With the petty formalities of being charged and convicted to be taken care of first, understandable that you would overlook those. Ever get an unsolicited spam e-mail advertising a porno web site that claims to have kiddie porn available? If so, under UK law, you could be charged with the same offences as PT, a copy of a deleted spam e-mail in a cache on your hard drive constitutes *manufacturing* kiddie porn in the UK, because a computer you own made a copy even if you didn’t know it existed. And if you paid for it, well, that’s incitement to distribute, because by paying for it you encouraged them to do it again. Hey, the vermin who make and distribute and collect kiddie porn deserve to rot in the foulest dungeon the ACLU will allow to exist, but the offences PT *might* be charged with are absurd, the kiddie-porn spam I got a few weeks ago and promptly reported to the hosting ISP could get me five years in prison if I lived the UK, because I haven’t deleted it until I see what the ISP is going to do. And how the hell are you supposed to delete this crap without looking at it, as just looking is in itself a crime? George Orwell, where are you when we need you?
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I totally agree. I started to receive a lot, and I mean up to 10 a day, of spam E mails. All of which promotes everything from child pornography through to dating and beyond. Where the hell these sites got my E addy from I do not know but, like you, I reported this to the originating ISP, who, surprise, surprise didn’t reply or my E Mail was returned as not known. I now use a ‘mail washer’ program so that any unwanted E mails get deleted and ‘bounced’ before they hit Outlook. (try http://www.mailwasher.net its free and DOES work) It is so wrong that through absolutely no fault of my own I am subject to excessive spamming, totally unwarranted and potentially dangerous. — Alun P www.bassics.org
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>I totally agree. I started to receive a lot, and I mean up to 10 a day, >of spam E mails. All of which promotes everything from child pornography >through to dating and beyond. Where the hell these sites got my E addy >from I do not know
Here, is one place. Spammers have harvester bots that cruise Usenet, chatrooms, web sites etc. looking for e-mail addresses, or they buy them from companies you do business with online, or they use "dictionary attacks" that make up likely adresses — jsmith at whatever ISP, ksmith at whatever ISP — they spew them out by the millions and hope some of them get through. This year spam is supposed to account for over 60% of all e-mail traffic. >but, like you, I reported this to the originating >ISP, who, surprise, surprise didn’t reply or my E Mail was returned as >not known.
I think the ISPs that host these kiddie porn sites should contribute a few executives to go to jail along with the scum who actually sell the stuff, seems fair to me. >I now use a ‘mail washer’ program so that any unwanted E mails get >deleted and ‘bounced’ before they hit Outlook.
Unfortunately that means that when spammers use fake or forged "from" addresses, you are bouncing to people who didn’t actually send the spam. Spammers are scum.
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totally agree with your comments. But, I am primarily interested in my own protection though. — Alun P www.bassics.org
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I totally agree. I started to receive a lot, and I mean up to 10 a day, >of spam E mails. All of which promotes everything from child pornography >through to dating and beyond. Where the hell these sites got my E addy >from I do not know > Here, is one place. Spammers have harvester bots that cruise Usenet, > chatrooms, web sites etc. looking for e-mail addresses, or they buy them > from companies you do business with online, or they use "dictionary attacks" > that make up likely adresses — jsmith at whatever ISP, ksmith at whatever > ISP — they spew them out by the millions and hope some of them get through. > This year spam is supposed to account for over 60% of all e-mail traffic. >but, like you, I reported this to the originating >ISP, who, surprise, surprise didn’t reply or my E Mail was returned as >not known. > I think the ISPs that host these kiddie porn sites should contribute a few > executives to go to jail along with the scum who actually sell the stuff, > seems fair to me. >I now use a ‘mail washer’ program so that any unwanted E mails get >deleted and ‘bounced’ before they hit Outlook. > Unfortunately that means that when spammers use fake or forged "from" > addresses, you are bouncing to people who didn’t actually send the spam. > Spammers are scum.